Switch from a BA to a BS and you'll have those answers... ;)

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:07 AM, pol.science kid <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> Do planets have life.... and volcanoes... why are the laws of physics
> so absolute.. why doesnt a planet ever stray from its orbit....
>
> On May 13, 7:50 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 'Life' has definitely become a tricky word to define these days. A rock
> is inert, passive, possesses no active systems, is incapable of
> reproduction, is inorganic, and thus my scientist's brain rules it out.
> Questioning what is sentient has become a whole new conundrum, as both many
> species of animals (long thought insentient by many schools of thought), and
> some complex AI systems are capable of displaying traits of self awareness
> and subjective perception. Combined with the long running argument of 'What
> is consciousness?', it tends to make it difficult for a rationalist to come
> to an easy answer.
> >
> >
> >
> > [ Attached Message ]From:gruff <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" <
> [email protected]>Date:Wed, 13 May 2009 07:09:51 -0700
> (PDT)Local:Wed, May 13 2009 7:09 pmSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: Is the Dream
> Dead?
> >
> > "... On May 12, 7:30 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]>
> > wrote: ..."
> >
> > > I believe the question could be rephrased as, 'Why do you think a rock
> has life?'
> >
> > Life as we know it to be is not infused in a rock.  I think the only
> > way a rock -- or any other such matter -- could be considered to have
> > anything even remotely considered to be life would be the forces that
> > imbue that rock at the atomic or sub-atomic level.  To my thinking,
> > life implies sentience which is the ability to feel or perceive
> > subjectively.   Of course it could also be argued whether or not a
> > single celled creature -- which we do define as possessing life -- can
> > actually feel or perceive subjectively.   However, I seriously doubt
> > whether a rock or any other such matter, could be considered to have
> > life as such.  I've never known a rock that could feel anything.
> >
>
> >
>

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