What would that point be?
On May 13, 4:25 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> There is a point where such 'questioning' poses absolutely no stress
> at all...
>
> On May 13, 8:30 am, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
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> > I agree with Chris. One does learn much from knowledge in science.
> > It has changed my perspectives. Perspectives such as religion,
> > science, nature and philosophy much of what I thought was, is now
> > overidden with isn't. But I can attest to one thing, I wasn't as
> > stressed by simply accepting, than I am now by questioning.
>
> > On May 13, 11:16 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > Switch from a BA to a BS and you'll have those answers... ;)
>
> > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:07 AM, pol.science kid
> > > <[email protected]>wrote:
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> > > > Do planets have life.... and volcanoes... why are the laws of physics
> > > > so absolute.. why doesnt a planet ever stray from its orbit....
>
> > > > On May 13, 7:50 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > 'Life' has definitely become a tricky word to define these days. A
> > > > > rock
> > > > is inert, passive, possesses no active systems, is incapable of
> > > > reproduction, is inorganic, and thus my scientist's brain rules it out.
> > > > Questioning what is sentient has become a whole new conundrum, as both
> > > > many
> > > > species of animals (long thought insentient by many schools of
> > > > thought), and
> > > > some complex AI systems are capable of displaying traits of self
> > > > awareness
> > > > and subjective perception. Combined with the long running argument of
> > > > 'What
> > > > is consciousness?', it tends to make it difficult for a rationalist to
> > > > come
> > > > to an easy answer.
>
> > > > > [ Attached Message ]From:gruff <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds
> > > > > Eye\"" <
> > > > [email protected]>Date:Wed, 13 May 2009 07:09:51 -0700
> > > > (PDT)Local:Wed, May 13 2009 7:09 pmSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: Is the Dream
> > > > Dead?
>
> > > > > "... On May 12, 7:30 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote: ..."
>
> > > > > > I believe the question could be rephrased as, 'Why do you think a
> > > > > > rock
> > > > has life?'
>
> > > > > Life as we know it to be is not infused in a rock. I think the only
> > > > > way a rock -- or any other such matter -- could be considered to have
> > > > > anything even remotely considered to be life would be the forces that
> > > > > imbue that rock at the atomic or sub-atomic level. To my thinking,
> > > > > life implies sentience which is the ability to feel or perceive
> > > > > subjectively. Of course it could also be argued whether or not a
> > > > > single celled creature -- which we do define as possessing life -- can
> > > > > actually feel or perceive subjectively. However, I seriously doubt
> > > > > whether a rock or any other such matter, could be considered to have
> > > > > life as such. I've never known a rock that could feel anything.-
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