faces may portray one thing, but the eyes are the window to the soul.
somebody could be in a lot of pain and grimacing because of
such...they might look offensive yet be the sweetest person around.
facial expressions can be faked or portray the wrong message...just as
some are able to pass lie detector tests while they are in fact
guilty, and vice versa...

On May 15, 7:52 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> I wonder if anyone had a chance to see the BBC series "The Human Face"
> with John Cleese who tells us that there are thousands human
> expressions that convey different emotions.  There is a science to
> understanding this, and here in the US, there is a prime time show
> that (in a feeble and sensational attempt) shows us how, with the CIA
> experts cracking cases by reading the faces of suspects.  It is funny
> that they will show us the face of contempt on a suspect, and then
> flash to the face of Hillary Clinton with the same expression, mocking
> many of the world leaders who, at least for a moment, put their mask
> down and were caught on camera doing so.
>
> Interpreting the masks around us, I think, must be more intuitive than
> mechanical.  What a colossal waste of time it would be to walk around
> constantly, looking at faces and translating expressions.  I think we
> do it quite naturally and intuitively, and might only need the
> practice if we were running into trouble with it.
>
> On May 14, 12:00 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > and integrity.  But I wonder if we, ourselves, understand how we use
> > masks to face the world.  As rigsy said, the mask of a rebel can allow
> > us to push against authority or each other.  The mask of the warrior
> > can allow us to defend a loved one when we are, at our core, peaceful
> > people.  The mask of a lover can allow us to say Olive you, when we
> > are shy.  I think the masks themselves allow us to try on and step
> > into aspects of self that haven't been tried or aren't normally
> > comfortable.  At some point, if we find our comfort zone wearing the
> > mask, we can take it off and integrate the aspect of being.  This may
> > be more along the line of what Joseph Campbell may have been
> > thinking.  We each go through our lives searching inwardly or
> > externally for purpose or place in the world.  The masks of God and
> > masks we use all uncover the same thing eventually.
>
> > On May 14, 9:23 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > There is always a sense of comfort in knowing one can be truly oneself
> > > when around others without having to use a mask.
>
> > > On May 14, 8:07 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I think we can resurrect the mask discussion, rigsy.  Ultimately, if
> > > > we are feeling one thing and purposefully expressing another, we don a
> > > > mask.  Our reasons may be noble, as to protect a loved one, or self
> > > > serving, as to drive our own agenda.  But in the moment, we are
> > > > choosing the mask instead of a legitimate feeling that allows us to
> > > > connect with others that does not require a mask.  We can choose our
> > > > feelings and how we express them.
>
> > > > On May 13, 4:07 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Also costume denotes hierarchy and a wealth of material signals from
> > > > > cars to homes to t-shirts and tatoos. A certain unassailable grace of
> > > > > posture and poise to a slouch. We pick and choose from the infinite
> > > > > variety.
>
> > > > > On May 11, 11:50 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Deception implies intent.
>
> > > > > > The most inscrutable masks we wear are the ones we are not even 
> > > > > > aware
> > > > > > of.
>
> > > > > > The Inscrutability Level of the masks we wear are in the following
> > > > > > increasing order :
>
> > > > > > Body, Face, Apparent Expressions.
>
> > > > > > Emotions.
>
> > > > > > Thought. Intent.
>
> > > > > > Knowledge. Facts.
>
> > > > > > The Idea we have of ourself  -  Ego.
>
> > > > > > The series does not end here !  Only, I do not know how to express
> > > > > > it  ...   Primordial ...  perhaps.
>
> > > > > > On May 11, 8:28 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I would answer no he does not ware a mask, to all of those 
> > > > > > > questions.
>
> > > > > > > Indeed it is this very idea that we put masks on that I am 
> > > > > > > incliened
> > > > > > > to disbelieve.  What is meant by the word mask, do we mean only
> > > > > > > deception?
>
> > > > > > > On 11 May, 16:17, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > You tell me.  If he is lying, and tells you he is lying, where 
> > > > > > > > is the
> > > > > > > > mask?  If he is presenting his lie as truth, but known as a 
> > > > > > > > liar, is
> > > > > > > > there a mask?  If he doesn't understand his compulsion to lie, 
> > > > > > > > is it
> > > > > > > > just a mask he does not recognize?  If he says I am a liar, is 
> > > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > trapped in a paradox (OK Deepak...)
>
> > > > > > > > On May 11, 10:56 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > So then lying, or deception is really putting a mask on?
>
> > > > > > > > > What if the nature of the man is deception, then he wares no 
> > > > > > > > > mask?
>
> > > > > > > > > On 11 May, 15:46, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Well, is a rat capable of undying love?  If so, then I 
> > > > > > > > > > would say no
> > > > > > > > > > mask was worn.  If not, then he was donning the mask of the 
> > > > > > > > > > lover.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 10:35 am, "[email protected]" 
> > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Now it occoures to me that over the last few weeks my 
> > > > > > > > > > > initial posts in
> > > > > > > > > > > response to the questions of others may have been seen to 
> > > > > > > > > > > be negative
> > > > > > > > > > > or argumentative.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Just to say that it is not my want to play devil's 
> > > > > > > > > > > advocate(in truth I
> > > > > > > > > > > do this rarely), no it is simply because I find myself 
> > > > > > > > > > > disagreeing
> > > > > > > > > > > with whatever particular premise I find myself reading.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > So bareing that in mind, I shall ask, are these masks we 
> > > > > > > > > > > put on or are
> > > > > > > > > > > they just differant facets of who we are?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Whenthe man pleads undying ,ove and then walks away after 
> > > > > > > > > > > getting what
> > > > > > > > > > > he wants.  Is he wearing a mask or can it be said that he 
> > > > > > > > > > > is simply
> > > > > > > > > > > showing us that facet of himself that we may well call 
> > > > > > > > > > > rattish?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On 11 May, 15:18, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Joseph Campbell is probably our best known contemporary 
> > > > > > > > > > > > expert on the
> > > > > > > > > > > > subject of masks, and his work including his massive 
> > > > > > > > > > > > studies, Masks of
> > > > > > > > > > > > God and Masks of Eternity, offer his keen insight into 
> > > > > > > > > > > > our own
> > > > > > > > > > > > abilities to don a mask and uncover the masks we find.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > What is it about us that put on our masks?  What about 
> > > > > > > > > > > > us creates the
> > > > > > > > > > > > need for one?  When do we confuse our mask with who we 
> > > > > > > > > > > > really are?
> > > > > > > > > > > > When are masks useful and when do they become obstacles 
> > > > > > > > > > > > for us?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I’m not talking about the functional, physical mask 
> > > > > > > > > > > > such as
> > > > > > > > > > > > theatrical, surgical, protect and disguise mask etc.  I 
> > > > > > > > > > > > am talking
> > > > > > > > > > > > about the mask of persona, the way we pretend to be one 
> > > > > > > > > > > > way and are
> > > > > > > > > > > > really another.  Politesse is a good example and can 
> > > > > > > > > > > > often be a
> > > > > > > > > > > > cultural custom.  When our words and mannerisms are 
> > > > > > > > > > > > polite, but our
> > > > > > > > > > > > actions and innuendos aggressive, we are wearing a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > mask.  When we
> > > > > > > > > > > > profess undying love as a means to an end, and walk 
> > > > > > > > > > > > away in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > morning light, we are wearing a mask.  Sometimes, we 
> > > > > > > > > > > > lose sight of our
> > > > > > > > > > > > own masks and are confused about who we really are.  
> > > > > > > > > > > > Why?
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