somebody should invent a group or chat room where there is a window on the side of the page showing the persons face -
It's called Skype, it's free and I use it all the time. If I didn't wear a mask sometimes I wouldn't keep a job, a girlfriend or my own sanity. At an office party, for example, I have to practically become a different person because I have nothing in common with most of the people there and I don't want to get stuck with the small group I actually do have something in common with the entire evening. I have to work the crowd; network so to speak. Sure its false but it's how you transfer up or sideways to a better position with more upward mobility. Sometimes you get the knowing smirk from a friend that knows your game and gives you the wink or the finger on the side of the nose. I'd wager the most popular kids in school all have one thing in common. They are skilled maintaining masks. Disguising one's thoughts/opiniions/feelings is a useful skill. I wish I was better at it. dj On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 9:35 AM, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > beside their post in > real time! well, maybe not ;-^) > > On May 15, 10:20 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: >> Indeed, interpreting the expression completes the communication loop, >> and is also fraught with complexity. So often, what is expressed is >> misinterpreted. Here in the web space, we do not have the body >> language cues to help us along in interpreting communication. I >> haven't decided if that is good or bad. I suppose it could be either, >> depending on the circumstance. We are forced to leave behind all of >> our biases to physical appearance here, along with the reactions of >> our ego to certain physical expressions. That could be a good thing. >> >> Nonetheless, we pick up and put down our masks, even when using words >> in this space. And even when we put down our mask, it might be >> interpreted as wearing one by someone who has had a bad experience >> with a particular type of person or particular phraseology. >> >> I wholeheartedly agree with you about the nature of expression through >> our eyes. There seems to be the possibility of a pure connection when >> masks are off and eyes are locked together. >> >> On May 15, 9:08 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > faces may portray one thing, but the eyes are the window to the soul. >> > somebody could be in a lot of pain and grimacing because of >> > such...they might look offensive yet be the sweetest person around. >> > facial expressions can be faked or portray the wrong message...just as >> > some are able to pass lie detector tests while they are in fact >> > guilty, and vice versa... >> >> > On May 15, 7:52 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > I wonder if anyone had a chance to see the BBC series "The Human Face" >> > > with John Cleese who tells us that there are thousands human >> > > expressions that convey different emotions. There is a science to >> > > understanding this, and here in the US, there is a prime time show >> > > that (in a feeble and sensational attempt) shows us how, with the CIA >> > > experts cracking cases by reading the faces of suspects. It is funny >> > > that they will show us the face of contempt on a suspect, and then >> > > flash to the face of Hillary Clinton with the same expression, mocking >> > > many of the world leaders who, at least for a moment, put their mask >> > > down and were caught on camera doing so. >> >> > > Interpreting the masks around us, I think, must be more intuitive than >> > > mechanical. What a colossal waste of time it would be to walk around >> > > constantly, looking at faces and translating expressions. I think we >> > > do it quite naturally and intuitively, and might only need the >> > > practice if we were running into trouble with it. >> >> > > On May 14, 12:00 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > and integrity. But I wonder if we, ourselves, understand how we use >> > > > masks to face the world. As rigsy said, the mask of a rebel can allow >> > > > us to push against authority or each other. The mask of the warrior >> > > > can allow us to defend a loved one when we are, at our core, peaceful >> > > > people. The mask of a lover can allow us to say Olive you, when we >> > > > are shy. I think the masks themselves allow us to try on and step >> > > > into aspects of self that haven't been tried or aren't normally >> > > > comfortable. At some point, if we find our comfort zone wearing the >> > > > mask, we can take it off and integrate the aspect of being. This may >> > > > be more along the line of what Joseph Campbell may have been >> > > > thinking. We each go through our lives searching inwardly or >> > > > externally for purpose or place in the world. The masks of God and >> > > > masks we use all uncover the same thing eventually. >> >> > > > On May 14, 9:23 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > There is always a sense of comfort in knowing one can be truly >> > > > > oneself >> > > > > when around others without having to use a mask. >> >> > > > > On May 14, 8:07 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > I think we can resurrect the mask discussion, rigsy. Ultimately, >> > > > > > if >> > > > > > we are feeling one thing and purposefully expressing another, we >> > > > > > don a >> > > > > > mask. Our reasons may be noble, as to protect a loved one, or self >> > > > > > serving, as to drive our own agenda. But in the moment, we are >> > > > > > choosing the mask instead of a legitimate feeling that allows us to >> > > > > > connect with others that does not require a mask. We can choose >> > > > > > our >> > > > > > feelings and how we express them. >> >> > > > > > On May 13, 4:07 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > Also costume denotes hierarchy and a wealth of material signals >> > > > > > > from >> > > > > > > cars to homes to t-shirts and tatoos. A certain unassailable >> > > > > > > grace of >> > > > > > > posture and poise to a slouch. We pick and choose from the >> > > > > > > infinite >> > > > > > > variety. >> >> > > > > > > On May 11, 11:50 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > Deception implies intent. >> >> > > > > > > > The most inscrutable masks we wear are the ones we are not >> > > > > > > > even aware >> > > > > > > > of. >> >> > > > > > > > The Inscrutability Level of the masks we wear are in the >> > > > > > > > following >> > > > > > > > increasing order : >> >> > > > > > > > Body, Face, Apparent Expressions. >> >> > > > > > > > Emotions. >> >> > > > > > > > Thought. Intent. >> >> > > > > > > > Knowledge. Facts. >> >> > > > > > > > The Idea we have of ourself - Ego. >> >> > > > > > > > The series does not end here ! Only, I do not know how to >> > > > > > > > express >> > > > > > > > it ... Primordial ... perhaps. >> >> > > > > > > > On May 11, 8:28 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > > wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > I would answer no he does not ware a mask, to all of those >> > > > > > > > > questions. >> >> > > > > > > > > Indeed it is this very idea that we put masks on that I am >> > > > > > > > > incliened >> > > > > > > > > to disbelieve. What is meant by the word mask, do we mean >> > > > > > > > > only >> > > > > > > > > deception? >> >> > > > > > > > > On 11 May, 16:17, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > You tell me. If he is lying, and tells you he is lying, >> > > > > > > > > > where is the >> > > > > > > > > > mask? If he is presenting his lie as truth, but known as >> > > > > > > > > > a liar, is >> > > > > > > > > > there a mask? If he doesn't understand his compulsion to >> > > > > > > > > > lie, is it >> > > > > > > > > > just a mask he does not recognize? If he says I am a >> > > > > > > > > > liar, is he >> > > > > > > > > > trapped in a paradox (OK Deepak...) >> >> > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 10:56 am, "[email protected]" >> > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > So then lying, or deception is really putting a mask on? >> >> > > > > > > > > > > What if the nature of the man is deception, then he >> > > > > > > > > > > wares no mask? >> >> > > > > > > > > > > On 11 May, 15:46, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Well, is a rat capable of undying love? If so, then I >> > > > > > > > > > > > would say no >> > > > > > > > > > > > mask was worn. If not, then he was donning the mask >> > > > > > > > > > > > of the lover. >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 10:35 am, "[email protected]" >> > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now it occoures to me that over the last few weeks >> > > > > > > > > > > > > my initial posts in >> > > > > > > > > > > > > response to the questions of others may have been >> > > > > > > > > > > > > seen to be negative >> > > > > > > > > > > > > or argumentative. >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Just to say that it is not my want to play devil's >> > > > > > > > > > > > > advocate(in truth I >> > > > > > > > > > > > > do this rarely), no it is simply because I find >> > > > > > > > > > > > > myself disagreeing >> > > > > > > > > > > > > with whatever particular premise I find myself >> > > > > > > > > > > > > reading. >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > So bareing that in mind, I shall ask, are these >> > > > > > > > > > > > > masks we put on or are >> > > > > > > > > > > > > they just differant facets of who we are? >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Whenthe man pleads undying ,ove and then walks away >> > > > > > > > > > > > > after getting what >> > > > > > > > > > > > > he wants. Is he wearing a mask or can it be said >> > > > > > > > > > > > > that he is simply >> > > > > > > > > > > > > showing us that facet of himself that we may well >> > > > > > > > > > > > > call rattish? >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11 May, 15:18, Molly Brogan >> > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joseph Campbell is probably our best known >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > contemporary expert on the >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > subject of masks, and his work including his >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > massive studies, Masks of >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > God and Masks of Eternity, offer his keen insight >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > into our own >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > abilities to don a mask and uncover the masks we >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > find. >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is it about us that put on our masks? What >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > about us creates the >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > need for one? When do we confuse our mask with >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > who we really are? >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > When are masks useful and when do they become >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > obstacles for us? >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’m not talking about the functional, physical >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mask such as >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > theatrical, surgical, protect and disguise mask >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc. I am talking >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > about the mask of persona, the way we pretend to >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > be one way and are >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > really another. Politesse is a good example and >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > can often be a >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > cultural custom. When our words and mannerisms >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are polite, but our >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > actions and innuendos aggressive, we are wearing a >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mask. When we >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > profess undying love as a means to an end, and >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > walk away in the >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > morning light, we are wearing a mask. Sometimes, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we lose sight of our >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > own masks and are confused about who we really >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are. Why? >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do YOU think?- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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