thats why i said 'maybe not'...i was actually kidding, which is my
propensity ...hey...i close my eyes while shaving, why would i want to
show my ugly mug on the internet??? ;-^)

On May 16, 6:11 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote:
> if such a thing were invented we'd have to make ourselves presentable
> before sitting on the computer.... that would suck dude... and we wont
> be abl to talk trash freely... now anonymity gives us freedom...know
> wat i mean..;-)
>
> On May 15, 7:35 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > somebody should invent a group or chat room where there is a window on
> > the side of the page showing the persons face beside their post in
> > real time! well, maybe not ;-^)
>
> > On May 15, 10:20 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Indeed, interpreting the expression completes the communication loop,
> > > and is also fraught with complexity.  So often, what is expressed is
> > > misinterpreted.  Here in the web space, we do not have the body
> > > language cues to help us along in interpreting communication.  I
> > > haven't decided if that is good or bad.  I suppose it could be either,
> > > depending on the circumstance.  We are forced to leave behind all of
> > > our biases to physical appearance here, along with the reactions of
> > > our ego to certain physical expressions.  That could be a good thing.
>
> > > Nonetheless, we pick up and put down our masks, even when using words
> > > in this space.  And even when we put down our mask, it might be
> > > interpreted as wearing one by someone who has had a bad experience
> > > with a particular type of person or particular phraseology.
>
> > > I wholeheartedly agree with you about the nature of expression through
> > > our eyes.  There seems to be the possibility of a pure connection when
> > > masks are off and eyes are locked together.
>
> > > On May 15, 9:08 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > faces may portray one thing, but the eyes are the window to the soul.
> > > > somebody could be in a lot of pain and grimacing because of
> > > > such...they might look offensive yet be the sweetest person around.
> > > > facial expressions can be faked or portray the wrong message...just as
> > > > some are able to pass lie detector tests while they are in fact
> > > > guilty, and vice versa...
>
> > > > On May 15, 7:52 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I wonder if anyone had a chance to see the BBC series "The Human Face"
> > > > > with John Cleese who tells us that there are thousands human
> > > > > expressions that convey different emotions.  There is a science to
> > > > > understanding this, and here in the US, there is a prime time show
> > > > > that (in a feeble and sensational attempt) shows us how, with the CIA
> > > > > experts cracking cases by reading the faces of suspects.  It is funny
> > > > > that they will show us the face of contempt on a suspect, and then
> > > > > flash to the face of Hillary Clinton with the same expression, mocking
> > > > > many of the world leaders who, at least for a moment, put their mask
> > > > > down and were caught on camera doing so.
>
> > > > > Interpreting the masks around us, I think, must be more intuitive than
> > > > > mechanical.  What a colossal waste of time it would be to walk around
> > > > > constantly, looking at faces and translating expressions.  I think we
> > > > > do it quite naturally and intuitively, and might only need the
> > > > > practice if we were running into trouble with it.
>
> > > > > On May 14, 12:00 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > and integrity.  But I wonder if we, ourselves, understand how we use
> > > > > > masks to face the world.  As rigsy said, the mask of a rebel can 
> > > > > > allow
> > > > > > us to push against authority or each other.  The mask of the warrior
> > > > > > can allow us to defend a loved one when we are, at our core, 
> > > > > > peaceful
> > > > > > people.  The mask of a lover can allow us to say Olive you, when we
> > > > > > are shy.  I think the masks themselves allow us to try on and step
> > > > > > into aspects of self that haven't been tried or aren't normally
> > > > > > comfortable.  At some point, if we find our comfort zone wearing the
> > > > > > mask, we can take it off and integrate the aspect of being.  This 
> > > > > > may
> > > > > > be more along the line of what Joseph Campbell may have been
> > > > > > thinking.  We each go through our lives searching inwardly or
> > > > > > externally for purpose or place in the world.  The masks of God and
> > > > > > masks we use all uncover the same thing eventually.
>
> > > > > > On May 14, 9:23 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > There is always a sense of comfort in knowing one can be truly 
> > > > > > > oneself
> > > > > > > when around others without having to use a mask.
>
> > > > > > > On May 14, 8:07 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > I think we can resurrect the mask discussion, rigsy.  
> > > > > > > > Ultimately, if
> > > > > > > > we are feeling one thing and purposefully expressing another, 
> > > > > > > > we don a
> > > > > > > > mask.  Our reasons may be noble, as to protect a loved one, or 
> > > > > > > > self
> > > > > > > > serving, as to drive our own agenda.  But in the moment, we are
> > > > > > > > choosing the mask instead of a legitimate feeling that allows 
> > > > > > > > us to
> > > > > > > > connect with others that does not require a mask.  We can 
> > > > > > > > choose our
> > > > > > > > feelings and how we express them.
>
> > > > > > > > On May 13, 4:07 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Also costume denotes hierarchy and a wealth of material 
> > > > > > > > > signals from
> > > > > > > > > cars to homes to t-shirts and tatoos. A certain unassailable 
> > > > > > > > > grace of
> > > > > > > > > posture and poise to a slouch. We pick and choose from the 
> > > > > > > > > infinite
> > > > > > > > > variety.
>
> > > > > > > > > On May 11, 11:50 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Deception implies intent.
>
> > > > > > > > > > The most inscrutable masks we wear are the ones we are not 
> > > > > > > > > > even aware
> > > > > > > > > > of.
>
> > > > > > > > > > The Inscrutability Level of the masks we wear are in the 
> > > > > > > > > > following
> > > > > > > > > > increasing order :
>
> > > > > > > > > > Body, Face, Apparent Expressions.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Emotions.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Thought. Intent.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Knowledge. Facts.
>
> > > > > > > > > > The Idea we have of ourself  -  Ego.
>
> > > > > > > > > > The series does not end here !  Only, I do not know how to 
> > > > > > > > > > express
> > > > > > > > > > it  ...   Primordial ...  perhaps.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 8:28 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I would answer no he does not ware a mask, to all of 
> > > > > > > > > > > those questions.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Indeed it is this very idea that we put masks on that I 
> > > > > > > > > > > am incliened
> > > > > > > > > > > to disbelieve.  What is meant by the word mask, do we 
> > > > > > > > > > > mean only
> > > > > > > > > > > deception?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On 11 May, 16:17, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > You tell me.  If he is lying, and tells you he is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > lying, where is the
> > > > > > > > > > > > mask?  If he is presenting his lie as truth, but known 
> > > > > > > > > > > > as a liar, is
> > > > > > > > > > > > there a mask?  If he doesn't understand his compulsion 
> > > > > > > > > > > > to lie, is it
> > > > > > > > > > > > just a mask he does not recognize?  If he says I am a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > liar, is he
> > > > > > > > > > > > trapped in a paradox (OK Deepak...)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 10:56 am, "[email protected]" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > So then lying, or deception is really putting a mask 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > on?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > What if the nature of the man is deception, then he 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wares no mask?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11 May, 15:46, Molly Brogan 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, is a rat capable of undying love?  If so, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > then I would say no
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mask was worn.  If not, then he was donning the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mask of the lover.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 10:35 am, "[email protected]" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now it occoures to me that over the last few 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > weeks my initial posts in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > response to the questions of others may have been 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seen to be negative
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or argumentative.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just to say that it is not my want to play 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > devil's advocate(in truth I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do this rarely), no it is simply because I find 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > myself disagreeing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with whatever particular premise I find myself 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reading.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So bareing that in mind, I shall ask, are these 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > masks we put on or are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they just differant facets of who we are?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whenthe man pleads undying ,ove and then walks 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > away after getting what
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he wants.  Is he wearing a mask or can it be said 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that he is simply
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > showing us that facet of himself that we may well 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > call rattish?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11 May, 15:18, Molly Brogan 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joseph Campbell is probably our best known 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contemporary expert on the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > subject of masks, and his work including his 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > massive studies, Masks of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > God and Masks of Eternity, offer his keen 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > insight into our own
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > abilities to don a mask and uncover the masks 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we find.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is it about us that put on our masks?  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What about us creates the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > need for one?  When do we confuse our mask with 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who we really are?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When are masks useful and when do they become 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > obstacles for us?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’m not talking about the functional, physical 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mask such as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > theatrical, surgical, protect and disguise mask 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc.  I am talking
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about the mask of persona, the way we pretend 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to be one way
>
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