somebody should invent a group or chat room where there is a window on the side of the page showing the persons face beside their post in real time! well, maybe not ;-^)
On May 15, 10:20 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > Indeed, interpreting the expression completes the communication loop, > and is also fraught with complexity. So often, what is expressed is > misinterpreted. Here in the web space, we do not have the body > language cues to help us along in interpreting communication. I > haven't decided if that is good or bad. I suppose it could be either, > depending on the circumstance. We are forced to leave behind all of > our biases to physical appearance here, along with the reactions of > our ego to certain physical expressions. That could be a good thing. > > Nonetheless, we pick up and put down our masks, even when using words > in this space. And even when we put down our mask, it might be > interpreted as wearing one by someone who has had a bad experience > with a particular type of person or particular phraseology. > > I wholeheartedly agree with you about the nature of expression through > our eyes. There seems to be the possibility of a pure connection when > masks are off and eyes are locked together. > > On May 15, 9:08 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > faces may portray one thing, but the eyes are the window to the soul. > > somebody could be in a lot of pain and grimacing because of > > such...they might look offensive yet be the sweetest person around. > > facial expressions can be faked or portray the wrong message...just as > > some are able to pass lie detector tests while they are in fact > > guilty, and vice versa... > > > On May 15, 7:52 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I wonder if anyone had a chance to see the BBC series "The Human Face" > > > with John Cleese who tells us that there are thousands human > > > expressions that convey different emotions. There is a science to > > > understanding this, and here in the US, there is a prime time show > > > that (in a feeble and sensational attempt) shows us how, with the CIA > > > experts cracking cases by reading the faces of suspects. It is funny > > > that they will show us the face of contempt on a suspect, and then > > > flash to the face of Hillary Clinton with the same expression, mocking > > > many of the world leaders who, at least for a moment, put their mask > > > down and were caught on camera doing so. > > > > Interpreting the masks around us, I think, must be more intuitive than > > > mechanical. What a colossal waste of time it would be to walk around > > > constantly, looking at faces and translating expressions. I think we > > > do it quite naturally and intuitively, and might only need the > > > practice if we were running into trouble with it. > > > > On May 14, 12:00 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > and integrity. But I wonder if we, ourselves, understand how we use > > > > masks to face the world. As rigsy said, the mask of a rebel can allow > > > > us to push against authority or each other. The mask of the warrior > > > > can allow us to defend a loved one when we are, at our core, peaceful > > > > people. The mask of a lover can allow us to say Olive you, when we > > > > are shy. I think the masks themselves allow us to try on and step > > > > into aspects of self that haven't been tried or aren't normally > > > > comfortable. At some point, if we find our comfort zone wearing the > > > > mask, we can take it off and integrate the aspect of being. This may > > > > be more along the line of what Joseph Campbell may have been > > > > thinking. We each go through our lives searching inwardly or > > > > externally for purpose or place in the world. The masks of God and > > > > masks we use all uncover the same thing eventually. > > > > > On May 14, 9:23 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > There is always a sense of comfort in knowing one can be truly oneself > > > > > when around others without having to use a mask. > > > > > > On May 14, 8:07 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I think we can resurrect the mask discussion, rigsy. Ultimately, if > > > > > > we are feeling one thing and purposefully expressing another, we > > > > > > don a > > > > > > mask. Our reasons may be noble, as to protect a loved one, or self > > > > > > serving, as to drive our own agenda. But in the moment, we are > > > > > > choosing the mask instead of a legitimate feeling that allows us to > > > > > > connect with others that does not require a mask. We can choose our > > > > > > feelings and how we express them. > > > > > > > On May 13, 4:07 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Also costume denotes hierarchy and a wealth of material signals > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > cars to homes to t-shirts and tatoos. A certain unassailable > > > > > > > grace of > > > > > > > posture and poise to a slouch. We pick and choose from the > > > > > > > infinite > > > > > > > variety. > > > > > > > > On May 11, 11:50 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Deception implies intent. > > > > > > > > > The most inscrutable masks we wear are the ones we are not even > > > > > > > > aware > > > > > > > > of. > > > > > > > > > The Inscrutability Level of the masks we wear are in the > > > > > > > > following > > > > > > > > increasing order : > > > > > > > > > Body, Face, Apparent Expressions. > > > > > > > > > Emotions. > > > > > > > > > Thought. Intent. > > > > > > > > > Knowledge. Facts. > > > > > > > > > The Idea we have of ourself - Ego. > > > > > > > > > The series does not end here ! Only, I do not know how to > > > > > > > > express > > > > > > > > it ... Primordial ... perhaps. > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 8:28 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I would answer no he does not ware a mask, to all of those > > > > > > > > > questions. > > > > > > > > > > Indeed it is this very idea that we put masks on that I am > > > > > > > > > incliened > > > > > > > > > to disbelieve. What is meant by the word mask, do we mean > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > deception? > > > > > > > > > > On 11 May, 16:17, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > You tell me. If he is lying, and tells you he is lying, > > > > > > > > > > where is the > > > > > > > > > > mask? If he is presenting his lie as truth, but known as a > > > > > > > > > > liar, is > > > > > > > > > > there a mask? If he doesn't understand his compulsion to > > > > > > > > > > lie, is it > > > > > > > > > > just a mask he does not recognize? If he says I am a liar, > > > > > > > > > > is he > > > > > > > > > > trapped in a paradox (OK Deepak...) > > > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 10:56 am, "[email protected]" > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > So then lying, or deception is really putting a mask on? > > > > > > > > > > > > What if the nature of the man is deception, then he wares > > > > > > > > > > > no mask? > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11 May, 15:46, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, is a rat capable of undying love? If so, then I > > > > > > > > > > > > would say no > > > > > > > > > > > > mask was worn. If not, then he was donning the mask of > > > > > > > > > > > > the lover. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 10:35 am, "[email protected]" > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now it occoures to me that over the last few weeks my > > > > > > > > > > > > > initial posts in > > > > > > > > > > > > > response to the questions of others may have been > > > > > > > > > > > > > seen to be negative > > > > > > > > > > > > > or argumentative. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just to say that it is not my want to play devil's > > > > > > > > > > > > > advocate(in truth I > > > > > > > > > > > > > do this rarely), no it is simply because I find > > > > > > > > > > > > > myself disagreeing > > > > > > > > > > > > > with whatever particular premise I find myself > > > > > > > > > > > > > reading. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So bareing that in mind, I shall ask, are these masks > > > > > > > > > > > > > we put on or are > > > > > > > > > > > > > they just differant facets of who we are? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whenthe man pleads undying ,ove and then walks away > > > > > > > > > > > > > after getting what > > > > > > > > > > > > > he wants. Is he wearing a mask or can it be said > > > > > > > > > > > > > that he is simply > > > > > > > > > > > > > showing us that facet of himself that we may well > > > > > > > > > > > > > call rattish? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11 May, 15:18, Molly Brogan > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joseph Campbell is probably our best known > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contemporary expert on the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > subject of masks, and his work including his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > massive studies, Masks of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > God and Masks of Eternity, offer his keen insight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into our own > > > > > > > > > > > > > > abilities to don a mask and uncover the masks we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > find. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is it about us that put on our masks? What > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about us creates the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > need for one? When do we confuse our mask with who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we really are? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When are masks useful and when do they become > > > > > > > > > > > > > > obstacles for us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’m not talking about the functional, physical mask > > > > > > > > > > > > > > such as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > theatrical, surgical, protect and disguise mask > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc. I am talking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about the mask of persona, the way we pretend to be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one way and are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really another. Politesse is a good example and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can often be a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cultural custom. When our words and mannerisms are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > polite, but our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actions and innuendos aggressive, we are wearing a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mask. When we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > profess undying love as a means to an end, and walk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > away in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > morning light, we are wearing a mask. Sometimes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we lose sight of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > own masks and are confused about who we really are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do YOU think?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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