Vam would be our subject matter expert there.
On May 17, 7:42 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> Good morning Molly, the early bird. Is it the worms? ;-)
> I'm sure India has the Big Brother, wouldn't you think?
>
> On May 17, 6:37 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Didn't mean to come off as rude - sorry if I did, kid, what about
> > China? Russia?
>
> > On May 17, 7:19 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > keep studying
>
> > > On May 17, 7:04 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I thought the big Brother was confined to the US.......
>
> > > > On May 16, 8:44 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Hey Kid ;
>
> > > > > "that would suck dude... and we wont
> > > > > be abl to talk trash freely... now anonymity gives us freedom...know
> > > > > wat i mean..;-)"
>
> > > > > I hate to be the one to burst your bubble kid,, there is no such
> > > > > thing as
> > > > > anonymity on the internet, Big brother always knows when he so
> > > > > desires the
> > > > > information.. movie hype just makes for a good story.. Like cell
> > > > > phones
> > > > > they already know where you are even before they pick it up..
> > > > > have fun.. remember big brother really is watching..
> > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 12:11 PM, pol.science kid
> > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > > > if such a thing were invented we'd have to make ourselves
> > > > > > presentable
> > > > > > before sitting on the computer.... that would suck dude... and we
> > > > > > wont
> > > > > > be abl to talk trash freely... now anonymity gives us freedom...know
> > > > > > wat i mean..;-)
>
> > > > > > On May 15, 7:35 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > somebody should invent a group or chat room where there is a
> > > > > > > window on
> > > > > > > the side of the page showing the persons face beside their post in
> > > > > > > real time! well, maybe not ;-^)
>
> > > > > > > On May 15, 10:20 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Indeed, interpreting the expression completes the communication
> > > > > > > > loop,
> > > > > > > > and is also fraught with complexity. So often, what is
> > > > > > > > expressed is
> > > > > > > > misinterpreted. Here in the web space, we do not have the body
> > > > > > > > language cues to help us along in interpreting communication. I
> > > > > > > > haven't decided if that is good or bad. I suppose it could be
> > > > > > > > either,
> > > > > > > > depending on the circumstance. We are forced to leave behind
> > > > > > > > all of
> > > > > > > > our biases to physical appearance here, along with the
> > > > > > > > reactions of
> > > > > > > > our ego to certain physical expressions. That could be a good
> > > > > > > > thing.
>
> > > > > > > > Nonetheless, we pick up and put down our masks, even when using
> > > > > > > > words
> > > > > > > > in this space. And even when we put down our mask, it might be
> > > > > > > > interpreted as wearing one by someone who has had a bad
> > > > > > > > experience
> > > > > > > > with a particular type of person or particular phraseology.
>
> > > > > > > > I wholeheartedly agree with you about the nature of expression
> > > > > > > > through
> > > > > > > > our eyes. There seems to be the possibility of a pure
> > > > > > > > connection when
> > > > > > > > masks are off and eyes are locked together.
>
> > > > > > > > On May 15, 9:08 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > faces may portray one thing, but the eyes are the window to
> > > > > > > > > the soul.
> > > > > > > > > somebody could be in a lot of pain and grimacing because of
> > > > > > > > > such...they might look offensive yet be the sweetest person
> > > > > > > > > around.
> > > > > > > > > facial expressions can be faked or portray the wrong
> > > > > > > > > message...just
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > some are able to pass lie detector tests while they are in
> > > > > > > > > fact
> > > > > > > > > guilty, and vice versa...
>
> > > > > > > > > On May 15, 7:52 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > I wonder if anyone had a chance to see the BBC series "The
> > > > > > > > > > Human
> > > > > > Face"
> > > > > > > > > > with John Cleese who tells us that there are thousands human
> > > > > > > > > > expressions that convey different emotions. There is a
> > > > > > > > > > science to
> > > > > > > > > > understanding this, and here in the US, there is a prime
> > > > > > > > > > time show
> > > > > > > > > > that (in a feeble and sensational attempt) shows us how,
> > > > > > > > > > with the
> > > > > > CIA
> > > > > > > > > > experts cracking cases by reading the faces of suspects.
> > > > > > > > > > It is
> > > > > > funny
> > > > > > > > > > that they will show us the face of contempt on a suspect,
> > > > > > > > > > and then
> > > > > > > > > > flash to the face of Hillary Clinton with the same
> > > > > > > > > > expression,
> > > > > > mocking
> > > > > > > > > > many of the world leaders who, at least for a moment, put
> > > > > > > > > > their
> > > > > > mask
> > > > > > > > > > down and were caught on camera doing so.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Interpreting the masks around us, I think, must be more
> > > > > > > > > > intuitive
> > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > mechanical. What a colossal waste of time it would be to
> > > > > > > > > > walk
> > > > > > around
> > > > > > > > > > constantly, looking at faces and translating expressions.
> > > > > > > > > > I think
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > do it quite naturally and intuitively, and might only need
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > practice if we were running into trouble with it.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On May 14, 12:00 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > and integrity. But I wonder if we, ourselves, understand
> > > > > > > > > > > how we
> > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > > > > masks to face the world. As rigsy said, the mask of a
> > > > > > > > > > > rebel can
> > > > > > allow
> > > > > > > > > > > us to push against authority or each other. The mask of
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > warrior
> > > > > > > > > > > can allow us to defend a loved one when we are, at our
> > > > > > > > > > > core,
> > > > > > peaceful
> > > > > > > > > > > people. The mask of a lover can allow us to say Olive
> > > > > > > > > > > you, when
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > are shy. I think the masks themselves allow us to try on
> > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > step
> > > > > > > > > > > into aspects of self that haven't been tried or aren't
> > > > > > > > > > > normally
> > > > > > > > > > > comfortable. At some point, if we find our comfort zone
> > > > > > > > > > > wearing
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > mask, we can take it off and integrate the aspect of
> > > > > > > > > > > being. This
> > > > > > may
> > > > > > > > > > > be more along the line of what Joseph Campbell may have
> > > > > > > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > > > > thinking. We each go through our lives searching
> > > > > > > > > > > inwardly or
> > > > > > > > > > > externally for purpose or place in the world. The masks
> > > > > > > > > > > of God
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > masks we use all uncover the same thing eventually.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On May 14, 9:23 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > There is always a sense of comfort in knowing one can
> > > > > > > > > > > > be truly
> > > > > > oneself
> > > > > > > > > > > > when around others without having to use a mask.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On May 14, 8:07 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we can resurrect the mask discussion, rigsy.
> > > > > > Ultimately, if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > we are feeling one thing and purposefully expressing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > another,
> > > > > > we don a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > mask. Our reasons may be noble, as to protect a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > loved one,
> > > > > > or self
> > > > > > > > > > > > > serving, as to drive our own agenda. But in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > moment, we
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > choosing the mask instead of a legitimate feeling
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that allows
> > > > > > us to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > connect with others that does not require a mask. We
> > > > > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > choose our
> > > > > > > > > > > > > feelings and how we express them.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 13, 4:07 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also costume denotes hierarchy and a wealth of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > material
> > > > > > signals from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > cars to homes to t-shirts and tatoos. A certain
> > > > > > unassailable grace of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > posture and poise to a slouch. We pick and choose
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > from the
> > > > > > infinite
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > variety.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 11:50 pm, Vamadevananda
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deception implies intent.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most inscrutable masks we wear are the ones
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are
> > > > > > not even aware
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Inscrutability Level of the masks we wear are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the
> > > > > > following
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > increasing order :
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Body, Face, Apparent Expressions.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Emotions.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thought. Intent.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Knowledge. Facts.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Idea we have of ourself - Ego.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The series does not end here ! Only, I do not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know how
> > > > > > to express
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ... Primordial ... perhaps.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 8:28 pm, "[email protected]" <
> > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would answer no he does not ware a mask, to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all of
> > > > > > those questions.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed it is this very idea that we put masks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on that I
> > > > > > am incliened
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to disbelieve. What is meant by the word mask,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do we
> > > > > > mean only
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deception?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11 May, 16:17, Molly Brogan
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You tell me. If he is lying, and tells you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he is
> > > > > > lying, where is the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mask? If he is presenting his lie as truth,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > known as a liar, is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there a mask? If he doesn't understand his
> > > > > > compulsion to lie, is it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a mask he does not recognize? If he
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > says I am a
> > > > > > liar, is he
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trapped in a paradox (OK Deepak...)
>
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>
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