Well, to line us up with the subject of the thread, the masks we place on our gods, our governments, others are as real as the masks we ourselves use. It all comes down to us, and the masks, whether we know it or understand it or not, make our lives more psychologically comfortable for us. What you believe your government to be is what you need to to sustain your persona and continue your life. In 5 years it will in all probability, be very different than it is now, as will all your masks and your use of the masks. And while they are not anything tangible that we can hold or point to other than with our ideas and language, they are a very real aspect of our experience.
On May 17, 8:20 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > Forgive the slow processing.. iam not sure i get you... > > On May 17, 5:15 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I suppose the mask of a country might seem like the mask of a god. It > > all comes down to you, kid. You is me. > > > On May 17, 8:05 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Yeah but like I said.. Indian Govt. doesnt have that kinda tech > > > yet... > > > > On May 17, 4:57 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > keep studyin kid. There has been facial recognition surveillance > > > > technology in big US public venues for a few years now, via the > > > > gobmnt. But like I said, if you have nothing to hide, what difference > > > > does it make? The age of ethics is upon us. > > > > > On May 17, 7:50 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > hey ! that wasnt rude Molly.. my dumb self realised i didnt make > > > > > myself clear.. and yeah i didnt change names didnt realise i was > > > > > replying thru mail... and you know I dont think India is on the lines > > > > > of China and Russia. plus Slip you mite be rite about the corporate > > > > > houses but I seriously doubt that our govt. is THe Big Brother > > > > > kinds... mild Brother more likely...i dont think they've got enuf tech > > > > > to act Big Brotherly... said without disrespect for my country... > > > > > > On May 17, 4:42 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Good morning Molly, the early bird. Is it the worms? ;-) > > > > > > I'm sure India has the Big Brother, wouldn't you think? > > > > > > > On May 17, 6:37 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Didn't mean to come off as rude - sorry if I did, kid, what about > > > > > > > China? Russia? > > > > > > > > On May 17, 7:19 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > keep studying > > > > > > > > > On May 17, 7:04 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I thought the big Brother was confined to the US....... > > > > > > > > > > On May 16, 8:44 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Kid ; > > > > > > > > > > > "that would suck dude... and we wont > > > > > > > > > > be abl to talk trash freely... now anonymity gives us > > > > > > > > > > freedom...know > > > > > > > > > > wat i mean..;-)" > > > > > > > > > > > I hate to be the one to burst your bubble kid,, there is no > > > > > > > > > > such thing as > > > > > > > > > > anonymity on the internet, Big brother always knows when he > > > > > > > > > > so desires the > > > > > > > > > > information.. movie hype just makes for a good story.. > > > > > > > > > > Like cell phones > > > > > > > > > > they already know where you are even before they pick it > > > > > > > > > > up.. > > > > > > > > > > have fun.. remember big brother really is watching.. > > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 12:11 PM, pol.science kid > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > if such a thing were invented we'd have to make ourselves > > > > > > > > > > > presentable > > > > > > > > > > > before sitting on the computer.... that would suck > > > > > > > > > > > dude... and we wont > > > > > > > > > > > be abl to talk trash freely... now anonymity gives us > > > > > > > > > > > freedom...know > > > > > > > > > > > wat i mean..;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 15, 7:35 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > somebody should invent a group or chat room where there > > > > > > > > > > > > is a window on > > > > > > > > > > > > the side of the page showing the persons face beside > > > > > > > > > > > > their post in > > > > > > > > > > > > real time! well, maybe not ;-^) > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 15, 10:20 am, Molly Brogan > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, interpreting the expression completes the > > > > > > > > > > > > > communication loop, > > > > > > > > > > > > > and is also fraught with complexity. So often, what > > > > > > > > > > > > > is expressed is > > > > > > > > > > > > > misinterpreted. Here in the web space, we do not > > > > > > > > > > > > > have the body > > > > > > > > > > > > > language cues to help us along in interpreting > > > > > > > > > > > > > communication. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > haven't decided if that is good or bad. I suppose it > > > > > > > > > > > > > could be either, > > > > > > > > > > > > > depending on the circumstance. We are forced to > > > > > > > > > > > > > leave behind all of > > > > > > > > > > > > > our biases to physical appearance here, along with > > > > > > > > > > > > > the reactions of > > > > > > > > > > > > > our ego to certain physical expressions. That could > > > > > > > > > > > > > be a good thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonetheless, we pick up and put down our masks, even > > > > > > > > > > > > > when using words > > > > > > > > > > > > > in this space. And even when we put down our mask, > > > > > > > > > > > > > it might be > > > > > > > > > > > > > interpreted as wearing one by someone who has had a > > > > > > > > > > > > > bad experience > > > > > > > > > > > > > with a particular type of person or particular > > > > > > > > > > > > > phraseology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wholeheartedly agree with you about the nature of > > > > > > > > > > > > > expression through > > > > > > > > > > > > > our eyes. There seems to be the possibility of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > pure connection when > > > > > > > > > > > > > masks are off and eyes are locked together. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 15, 9:08 am, e_space <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > faces may portray one thing, but the eyes are the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > window to the soul. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somebody could be in a lot of pain and grimacing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > such...they might look offensive yet be the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sweetest person around. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > facial expressions can be faked or portray the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrong message...just > > > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some are able to pass lie detector tests while they > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are in fact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > guilty, and vice versa... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 15, 7:52 am, Molly Brogan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if anyone had a chance to see the BBC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > series "The Human > > > > > > > > > > > Face" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with John Cleese who tells us that there are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thousands human > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > expressions that convey different emotions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a science to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understanding this, and here in the US, there is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a prime time show > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that (in a feeble and sensational attempt) shows > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us how, with the > > > > > > > > > > > CIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experts cracking cases by reading the faces of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suspects. It is > > > > > > > > > > > funny > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that they will show us the face of contempt on a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suspect, and then > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flash to the face of Hillary Clinton with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same expression, > > > > > > > > > > > mocking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > many of the world leaders who, at least for a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moment, put their > > > > > > > > > > > mask > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > down and were caught on camera doing so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interpreting the masks around us, I think, must > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be more intuitive > > > > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mechanical. What a colossal waste of time it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would be to walk > > > > > > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constantly, looking at faces and translating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > expressions. I think > > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do it quite naturally and intuitively, and might > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only need the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > practice if we were running into trouble with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 14, 12:00 pm, Molly Brogan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and integrity. But I wonder if we, ourselves, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand how we > > > > > > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > masks to face the world. As rigsy said, the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mask of a rebel can > > > > > > > > > > > allow > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us to push against authority or each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The mask of the > > > > > > > > > > > warrior > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can allow us to defend a loved one when we are, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at our core, > > > > > > > > > > > peaceful > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people. The mask of a lover can allow us to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > say Olive you, when > > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are shy. I think the masks themselves allow us > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to try on and > > > > > > > > > > > step > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into aspects of self that haven't been tried or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aren't normally > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comfortable. At some point, if we find our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comfort zone wearing > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mask, we can take it off and integrate the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspect of being. This > > > > > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be more along the line of what Joseph Campbell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may have been > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinking. We each go through our lives > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > searching inwardly or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > externally for purpose or place in the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The masks of God > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > masks we use all uncover the same thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eventually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 14, 9:23 am, Slip Disc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is always a sense of comfort in knowing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one can be truly > > > > > > > > > > > oneself > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when around others without having to use a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mask. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 14, 8:07 am, Molly Brogan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we can resurrect the mask > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion, rigsy. > > > > > > > > > > > Ultimately, if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are feeling one thing and purposefully > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > expressing another, > > > > > > > > > > > we don a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mask. Our reasons may be noble, as to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protect a loved one, > > > > > > > > > > > or self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > serving, as to drive our own agenda. But > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the moment, we > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > choosing the mask instead of a legitimate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feeling that allows > > > > > > > > > > > us to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > connect with > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
