all I can say is, welcome to the age of nothing to hide. I'm not defending it, I didn't invent it, but it is here.
On May 17, 11:57 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > Because that's a hellified Slippery Slope, Molly. > Maybe I gain my carnal pleasures from talking to like minded adults about > dressing up as giant bunny rabbits and sodomizing myself with over-sized > carrots. While there's nothing wrong with that, it's not anything I would > want the world at large to know about, Q.E.D., I have something to hide. > > Thought freedom comes from thought privacy. Big Brother takes away thought > privacy, and ushers in the era of thought crimes. > > Some remedial 1984 reading should help fully illustrate the flaw in the > "nothing to hide equals nothing to fear" thinking. Nowhere to hide equals > always in fear of your own mind, and what it may betray. > > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > keep studyin kid. There has been facial recognition surveillance > > technology in big US public venues for a few years now, via the > > gobmnt. But like I said, if you have nothing to hide, what difference > > does it make? The age of ethics is upon us. > > > On May 17, 7:50 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > hey ! that wasnt rude Molly.. my dumb self realised i didnt make > > > myself clear.. and yeah i didnt change names didnt realise i was > > > replying thru mail... and you know I dont think India is on the lines > > > of China and Russia. plus Slip you mite be rite about the corporate > > > houses but I seriously doubt that our govt. is THe Big Brother > > > kinds... mild Brother more likely...i dont think they've got enuf tech > > > to act Big Brotherly... said without disrespect for my country... > > > > On May 17, 4:42 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Good morning Molly, the early bird. Is it the worms? ;-) > > > > I'm sure India has the Big Brother, wouldn't you think? > > > > > On May 17, 6:37 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Didn't mean to come off as rude - sorry if I did, kid, what about > > > > > China? Russia? > > > > > > On May 17, 7:19 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > keep studying > > > > > > > On May 17, 7:04 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I thought the big Brother was confined to the US....... > > > > > > > > On May 16, 8:44 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hey Kid ; > > > > > > > > > "that would suck dude... and we wont > > > > > > > > be abl to talk trash freely... now anonymity gives us > > freedom...know > > > > > > > > wat i mean..;-)" > > > > > > > > > I hate to be the one to burst your bubble kid,, there is no > > such thing as > > > > > > > > anonymity on the internet, Big brother always knows when he so > > desires the > > > > > > > > information.. movie hype just makes for a good story.. Like > > cell phones > > > > > > > > they already know where you are even before they pick it up.. > > > > > > > > have fun.. remember big brother really is watching.. > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 12:11 PM, pol.science kid < > > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > if such a thing were invented we'd have to make ourselves > > presentable > > > > > > > > > before sitting on the computer.... that would suck dude... > > and we wont > > > > > > > > > be abl to talk trash freely... now anonymity gives us > > freedom...know > > > > > > > > > wat i mean..;-) > > > > > > > > > > On May 15, 7:35 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > somebody should invent a group or chat room where there is > > a window on > > > > > > > > > > the side of the page showing the persons face beside their > > post in > > > > > > > > > > real time! well, maybe not ;-^) > > > > > > > > > > > On May 15, 10:20 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, interpreting the expression completes the > > communication loop, > > > > > > > > > > > and is also fraught with complexity. So often, what is > > expressed is > > > > > > > > > > > misinterpreted. Here in the web space, we do not have > > the body > > > > > > > > > > > language cues to help us along in interpreting > > communication. I > > > > > > > > > > > haven't decided if that is good or bad. I suppose it > > could be either, > > > > > > > > > > > depending on the circumstance. We are forced to leave > > behind all of > > > > > > > > > > > our biases to physical appearance here, along with the > > reactions of > > > > > > > > > > > our ego to certain physical expressions. That could be a > > good thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonetheless, we pick up and put down our masks, even when > > using words > > > > > > > > > > > in this space. And even when we put down our mask, it > > might be > > > > > > > > > > > interpreted as wearing one by someone who has had a bad > > experience > > > > > > > > > > > with a particular type of person or particular > > phraseology. > > > > > > > > > > > > I wholeheartedly agree with you about the nature of > > expression through > > > > > > > > > > > our eyes. There seems to be the possibility of a pure > > connection when > > > > > > > > > > > masks are off and eyes are locked together. > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 15, 9:08 am, e_space <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > faces may portray one thing, but the eyes are the > > window to the soul. > > > > > > > > > > > > somebody could be in a lot of pain and grimacing > > because of > > > > > > > > > > > > such...they might look offensive yet be the sweetest > > person around. > > > > > > > > > > > > facial expressions can be faked or portray the wrong > > message...just > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > some are able to pass lie detector tests while they are > > in fact > > > > > > > > > > > > guilty, and vice versa... > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 15, 7:52 am, Molly Brogan < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if anyone had a chance to see the BBC series > > "The Human > > > > > > > > > Face" > > > > > > > > > > > > > with John Cleese who tells us that there are > > thousands human > > > > > > > > > > > > > expressions that convey different emotions. There is > > a science to > > > > > > > > > > > > > understanding this, and here in the US, there is a > > prime time show > > > > > > > > > > > > > that (in a feeble and sensational attempt) shows us > > how, with the > > > > > > > > > CIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > experts cracking cases by reading the faces of > > suspects. It is > > > > > > > > > funny > > > > > > > > > > > > > that they will show us the face of contempt on a > > suspect, and then > > > > > > > > > > > > > flash to the face of Hillary Clinton with the same > > expression, > > > > > > > > > mocking > > > > > > > > > > > > > many of the world leaders who, at least for a moment, > > put their > > > > > > > > > mask > > > > > > > > > > > > > down and were caught on camera doing so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interpreting the masks around us, I think, must be > > more intuitive > > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > > > > mechanical. What a colossal waste of time it would > > be to walk > > > > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > > > > > > constantly, looking at faces and translating > > expressions. I think > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > > do it quite naturally and intuitively, and might only > > need the > > > > > > > > > > > > > practice if we were running into trouble with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 14, 12:00 pm, Molly Brogan < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and integrity. But I wonder if we, ourselves, > > understand how we > > > > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > masks to face the world. As rigsy said, the mask > > of a rebel can > > > > > > > > > allow > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us to push against authority or each other. The > > mask of the > > > > > > > > > warrior > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can allow us to defend a loved one when we are, at > > our core, > > > > > > > > > peaceful > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people. The mask of a lover can allow us to say > > Olive you, when > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are shy. I think the masks themselves allow us to > > try on and > > > > > > > > > step > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into aspects of self that haven't been tried or > > aren't normally > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comfortable. At some point, if we find our comfort > > zone wearing > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mask, we can take it off and integrate the aspect > > of being. This > > > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be more along the line of what Joseph Campbell may > > have been > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinking. We each go through our lives searching > > inwardly or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > externally for purpose or place in the world. The > > masks of God > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > masks we use all uncover the same thing eventually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 14, 9:23 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is always a sense of comfort in knowing one > > can be truly > > > > > > > > > oneself > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when around others without having to use a mask. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 14, 8:07 am, Molly Brogan < > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we can resurrect the mask discussion, > > rigsy. > > > > > > > > > Ultimately, if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are feeling one thing and purposefully > > expressing another, > > > > > > > > > we don a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mask. Our reasons may be noble, as to protect > > a loved one, > > > > > > > > > or self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > serving, as to drive our own agenda. But in > > the moment, we > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > choosing the mask instead of a legitimate > > feeling that allows > > > > > > > > > us to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > connect with others that > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
