"...but I seriously doubt that our govt. is THe Big Brother kinds... mild Brother more likely...i dont think they've got enuf tech to act Big Brotherly... said without disrespect for my country... " - PSK
Even with the apparently gratuitous disclaimer at the end, one need merely to look: http://www.hindu.com/2008/12/03/stories/2008120355171000.htm http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/3540776/Mumbai-attacks-US-intelligence-warned-India-of-Taj-Hotel-plot-in-October-in-Bombay.html http://www.daily.pk/politics/politicalnews/7083-a-usa-report-india-intelligence-agency-raw-is-creating-trouble-for-nato-in-afghanistan-by-funding-and-supporting-terrorists-and-indian-state-sponsored-terrorism.html ...first 3 or so of about 7 million hits on Google. On May 17, 4:50 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > hey ! that wasnt rude Molly.. my dumb self realised i didnt make > myself clear.. and yeah i didnt change names didnt realise i was > replying thru mail... and you know I dont think India is on the lines > of China and Russia. plus Slip you mite be rite about the corporate > houses but I seriously doubt that our govt. is THe Big Brother > kinds... mild Brother more likely...i dont think they've got enuf tech > to act Big Brotherly... said without disrespect for my country... > > On May 17, 4:42 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Good morning Molly, the early bird. Is it the worms? ;-) > > I'm sure India has the Big Brother, wouldn't you think? > > > On May 17, 6:37 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Didn't mean to come off as rude - sorry if I did, kid, what about > > > China? Russia? > > > > On May 17, 7:19 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > keep studying > > > > > On May 17, 7:04 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I thought the big Brother was confined to the US....... > > > > > > On May 16, 8:44 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey Kid ; > > > > > > > "that would suck dude... and we wont > > > > > > be abl to talk trash freely... now anonymity gives us freedom...know > > > > > > wat i mean..;-)" > > > > > > > I hate to be the one to burst your bubble kid,, there is no such > > > > > > thing as > > > > > > anonymity on the internet, Big brother always knows when he so > > > > > > desires the > > > > > > information.. movie hype just makes for a good story.. Like cell > > > > > > phones > > > > > > they already know where you are even before they pick it up.. > > > > > > have fun.. remember big brother really is watching.. > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 12:11 PM, pol.science kid > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > if such a thing were invented we'd have to make ourselves > > > > > > > presentable > > > > > > > before sitting on the computer.... that would suck dude... and we > > > > > > > wont > > > > > > > be abl to talk trash freely... now anonymity gives us > > > > > > > freedom...know > > > > > > > wat i mean..;-) > > > > > > > > On May 15, 7:35 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > somebody should invent a group or chat room where there is a > > > > > > > > window on > > > > > > > > the side of the page showing the persons face beside their post > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > real time! well, maybe not ;-^) > > > > > > > > > On May 15, 10:20 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, interpreting the expression completes the > > > > > > > > > communication loop, > > > > > > > > > and is also fraught with complexity. So often, what is > > > > > > > > > expressed is > > > > > > > > > misinterpreted. Here in the web space, we do not have the > > > > > > > > > body > > > > > > > > > language cues to help us along in interpreting communication. > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > haven't decided if that is good or bad. I suppose it could > > > > > > > > > be either, > > > > > > > > > depending on the circumstance. We are forced to leave behind > > > > > > > > > all of > > > > > > > > > our biases to physical appearance here, along with the > > > > > > > > > reactions of > > > > > > > > > our ego to certain physical expressions. That could be a > > > > > > > > > good thing. > > > > > > > > > > Nonetheless, we pick up and put down our masks, even when > > > > > > > > > using words > > > > > > > > > in this space. And even when we put down our mask, it might > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > interpreted as wearing one by someone who has had a bad > > > > > > > > > experience > > > > > > > > > with a particular type of person or particular phraseology. > > > > > > > > > > I wholeheartedly agree with you about the nature of > > > > > > > > > expression through > > > > > > > > > our eyes. There seems to be the possibility of a pure > > > > > > > > > connection when > > > > > > > > > masks are off and eyes are locked together. > > > > > > > > > > On May 15, 9:08 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > faces may portray one thing, but the eyes are the window to > > > > > > > > > > the soul. > > > > > > > > > > somebody could be in a lot of pain and grimacing because of > > > > > > > > > > such...they might look offensive yet be the sweetest person > > > > > > > > > > around. > > > > > > > > > > facial expressions can be faked or portray the wrong > > > > > > > > > > message...just > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > some are able to pass lie detector tests while they are in > > > > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > > > guilty, and vice versa... > > > > > > > > > > > On May 15, 7:52 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if anyone had a chance to see the BBC series > > > > > > > > > > > "The Human > > > > > > > Face" > > > > > > > > > > > with John Cleese who tells us that there are thousands > > > > > > > > > > > human > > > > > > > > > > > expressions that convey different emotions. There is a > > > > > > > > > > > science to > > > > > > > > > > > understanding this, and here in the US, there is a prime > > > > > > > > > > > time show > > > > > > > > > > > that (in a feeble and sensational attempt) shows us how, > > > > > > > > > > > with the > > > > > > > CIA > > > > > > > > > > > experts cracking cases by reading the faces of suspects. > > > > > > > > > > > It is > > > > > > > funny > > > > > > > > > > > that they will show us the face of contempt on a suspect, > > > > > > > > > > > and then > > > > > > > > > > > flash to the face of Hillary Clinton with the same > > > > > > > > > > > expression, > > > > > > > mocking > > > > > > > > > > > many of the world leaders who, at least for a moment, put > > > > > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > mask > > > > > > > > > > > down and were caught on camera doing so. > > > > > > > > > > > > Interpreting the masks around us, I think, must be more > > > > > > > > > > > intuitive > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > > mechanical. What a colossal waste of time it would be to > > > > > > > > > > > walk > > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > > > > constantly, looking at faces and translating expressions. > > > > > > > > > > > I think > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > do it quite naturally and intuitively, and might only > > > > > > > > > > > need the > > > > > > > > > > > practice if we were running into trouble with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 14, 12:00 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > and integrity. But I wonder if we, ourselves, > > > > > > > > > > > > understand how we > > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > > > > > masks to face the world. As rigsy said, the mask of a > > > > > > > > > > > > rebel can > > > > > > > allow > > > > > > > > > > > > us to push against authority or each other. The mask > > > > > > > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > warrior > > > > > > > > > > > > can allow us to defend a loved one when we are, at our > > > > > > > > > > > > core, > > > > > > > peaceful > > > > > > > > > > > > people. The mask of a lover can allow us to say Olive > > > > > > > > > > > > you, when > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > are shy. I think the masks themselves allow us to try > > > > > > > > > > > > on and > > > > > > > step > > > > > > > > > > > > into aspects of self that haven't been tried or aren't > > > > > > > > > > > > normally > > > > > > > > > > > > comfortable. At some point, if we find our comfort > > > > > > > > > > > > zone wearing > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > mask, we can take it off and integrate the aspect of > > > > > > > > > > > > being. This > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > > > > be more along the line of what Joseph Campbell may have > > > > > > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > > > thinking. We each go through our lives searching > > > > > > > > > > > > inwardly or > > > > > > > > > > > > externally for purpose or place in the world. The > > > > > > > > > > > > masks of God > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > masks we use all uncover the same thing eventually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 14, 9:23 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is always a sense of comfort in knowing one can > > > > > > > > > > > > > be truly > > > > > > > oneself > > > > > > > > > > > > > when around others without having to use a mask. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 14, 8:07 am, Molly Brogan > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we can resurrect the mask discussion, rigsy. > > > > > > > Ultimately, if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are feeling one thing and purposefully > > > > > > > > > > > > > > expressing another, > > > > > > > we don a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mask. Our reasons may be noble, as to protect a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loved one, > > > > > > > or self > > > > > > > > > > > > > > serving, as to drive our own agenda. But in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moment, we > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > choosing the mask instead of a legitimate feeling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that allows > > > > > > > us to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > connect with others that does not require a mask. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can > > > > > > > choose our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feelings and how we express them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 13, 4:07 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also costume denotes hierarchy and a wealth of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > material > > > > > > > signals from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cars to homes to t-shirts and tatoos. A certain > > > > > > > unassailable grace of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > posture and poise to a slouch. We pick and choose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from the > > > > > > > infinite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > variety. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 11:50 pm, Vamadevananda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deception implies intent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most inscrutable masks we wear are the ones > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are > > > > > > > not even aware > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Inscrutability Level of the masks we wear > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are in the > > > > > > > following > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > increasing order : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Body, Face, Apparent Expressions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Emotions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thought. Intent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Knowledge. Facts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Idea we have of ourself - Ego. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The series does not end here ! Only, I do not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know how > > > > > > > to express > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ... Primordial ... perhaps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 8:28 pm, "[email protected]" < > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would answer no he does not ware a mask, to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all of > > > > > > > those questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed it is this very > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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