There is no maybe about it. Belive in something without proof, that's delusional isnt it?
I belive as you do. Ikonkar and all that. I would ask though where do such belifes come from for yourself? On 18 May, 12:21, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > you say you are a man of 'god' but then say that you recognize that > this may be a delusional belief....just wondering, do you consider > your belief in 'god' delusional or??? > > imo, we are all part of 'god' as each one of us have a spirit. some > hide from it, others are scared of it, and others have the desire to > be one with it, polish it, and consequently learn from it. where would > you say u fit in? > > On May 18, 6:16 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Now this is strange, and sorta uncomfatable. > > > I am a man of God, a scientist, philosopher and student of humanity. > > Thus far my lifes experiance and intectual persuits have shown me that > > humanity has sown seeds far and wide, seeds of indivduality and seeds > > of delusion. That is to see all of us, it seems have our delusioninal > > belifes. You woner why you have not yet managed to talk to a visiter > > of heaven or hell, yet I can't help but wonder if you have also talked > > to anybody who's reincarnation you have absolute proof of? > > > I realise that weeall have this need, and so just would not ever > > lampoon another because of his beliefes. What does budism teach about > > such behaviour I wonder? > > > On 18 May, 05:34, Charlie43 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On May 17, 9:37 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > i think one must consider the difference between imagination and > > > > inspiration. one is developed, the other realized. > > > > > the original feeling that led to a series of OBE's happened as i was > > > > lying in bed with eyes closed, just before sleep. i started to get the > > > > sensation of being drawn out of my body, like a strong magnetic > > > > pulling, and it had nothing to do with imagination. i was scared > > > > because i felt my spirit was going to leave my body, and i did not > > > > want an evil spirit to enter while i was gone, so i resisted. i wanted > > > > to go, but kept shutting the attraction down out of fear. one day > > > > while experiencing this pulling i said, 'mr devil, im going on a > > > > journey and u aint allowed into this body while im gone', then i > > > > released my spirit and i have never been the same since... > > > > > On May 16, 3:29 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > "desperatly need to beleive" > > > > > > That's the key to understanding all spiritual beliefs. > > > > > The 'fear of the unknown' is the root of the 'fear of death'. > > > > > For the common man (99.99%) the imagination is the only relief. For > > > > > the weak imagination, there are plenty of dogmas to ascribe to for the > > > > > comfort needed. Imagining a dogma to be true is good enough for > > > > > holding the 'fear' at bay. > > > > > > An eternal Life without the elements of Life is a joke. It's a > > > > > ridiculous fabrication of the imagination. > > > > > There is absolutely no substance to the idea. Every belief of an after > > > > > Life has absolutely no other source of verification than the human > > > > > 'living' mind's imagination. > > > > > Everything spiritual has the Life as a reference point. All of the > > > > > mystical mediums can gain the knowledge, they claim comes from the > > > > > dead, from the collective intelligence of mankind. > > > > > The collective intelligence is the only thing 'spiritual' about > > > > > mankind. > > > > > > You are not alone, but we are very few who can face the 'fear'. > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > On May 16, 4:24 am, buddahspath <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > just pondering a thought after a tramatic funeral and evening of > > > > > > emotional arguments between me[AGNOSTIC PHILOSIPHER] and my family > > > > > > fundementalist christians. who desperatly need to beleive what they > > > > > > have taught to believe is reality.i beleve to be irrational > > > > > > brainwashing! i am well aware that i have no comforting fairy tales > > > > > > of > > > > > > wonderful afterlife.i seriously doubt that a eternal life with no > > > > > > interestig challenges would be a tortureous hell! but maybe there > > > > > > could be some sort of nirvanic stages to grow as individuals and > > > > > > universe? but i guess as long my brain,heart,lungs and nervous > > > > > > system > > > > > > cooperate i journey through my own dream,fantasies and delusions of > > > > > > my > > > > > > imagination! doubt that i am the only souljourner on the road less > > > > > > travelled!- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Interesting conversation. I have walked the 8-folded path for many > > > years, and am pleased with what the Enlightened One has to offer to > > > me. I was raised in a Christian home, and realized early on how > > > pathetic that was. I have a questioning mind, which has lead me to > > > Buddhism. I find the principles of Buddhism to be both exact and > > > based on scientific explanation. I have often wanted to talk to > > > someone who has been to Heaven - or Hell - to see what their > > > experiences were. So far, I have had no takers. I wonder why...- Hide > > > quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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