No, orn, this statement does not have an apophatic conceptual background - it is more a statement of existential reality ... as I see it.
For an interesting exploration of some of the ideas coming up here, I would recommend the "Thomas Covenant" series by Stephen Donaldson. That is if you've got the time and inclination to wrap yourself around multiple volumes of epic fantasy. http://www.amazon.com/Chronicles-Thomas-Covenant-Unbeliever-Preserves/dp/0006473296/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1242841678&sr=1-2 Francis On 20 Mai, 19:28, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > So fran, does this assumption that we can not not choose include > negative theology, or as Advaita says, “Neti neti.”? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neti_neti > > On May 20, 9:03 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > We choose because choosing is an inevitable fact of life, every moment > > myriad possibilities being realised, far far more remaining > > unrealised. If Pat were still around, he and Neil could now begin a > > dialogue about the quantum ramifications of such a model, including > > rainbow refracting butterfly effects. What makes us pretty unique in > > the universe in which we experience ourselves is that we seem to be > > the only ones where the cosmic dance of constantly interacting quantum > > choices of energy-state possibilities is reflected in our conscious > > perception of ourselves, life, the universe, everything. (One could, > > of course, argue for the presence of something analogous in certain > > animals, but that's another subject). > > > We choose because we cannot not choose. Realising this is the basis of > > awesome freedom, but also responsibility. This can provide, in my > > view, a coherent non-theistic approach to the various questions of > > purpose in life, etc., which have been raised here recently. We > > continually make choices and our choices matter, because, if we fuck > > up, then baaaad shit can and will happen. Does happen. Freedom/ > > responsibility are the sources of human purpose and we don't, in fact, > > need a God to plug this gap. Moreover, theistic belief (especially in > > its various religious concretions) is often a cop-out ... the whole > > God's will/Insh'allah concept (at least as uderstood and practiced by > > many). > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_Effect > > > Francis > > > On 20 Mai, 17:22, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I admit, I am with very few beliefs. But I've been coming to the > > > conclusion that especially in a universe without a God, and us sitting > > > around with the illusion of free will, aren't they necessary? > > > > Here I am, a confused human in a world of cause and effect, of atoms > > > bouncing off each other in very precise ways for no particular > > > reason. Somehow I have to reconcile fact that I feel that I can make > > > choices not accordance with causation. Not only do I need to > > > reconcile that, but I have to decide what to do. I think this is > > > where belief and faith are necessary.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
