So fran, does this assumption that we can not not choose include
negative theology, or as Advaita says, “Neti neti.”?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neti_neti


On May 20, 9:03 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
> We choose because choosing is an inevitable fact of life, every moment
> myriad possibilities being realised, far far more remaining
> unrealised. If Pat were still around, he and Neil could now begin a
> dialogue about the quantum ramifications of such a model, including
> rainbow refracting butterfly effects. What makes us pretty unique in
> the universe in which we experience ourselves is that we seem to be
> the only ones where the cosmic dance of constantly interacting quantum
> choices of energy-state possibilities is reflected in our conscious
> perception of ourselves, life, the universe, everything. (One could,
> of course, argue for the presence of something analogous in certain
> animals, but that's another subject).
>
> We choose because we cannot not choose. Realising this is the basis of
> awesome freedom, but also responsibility. This can provide, in my
> view, a coherent non-theistic approach to the various questions of
> purpose in life, etc., which have been raised here recently. We
> continually make choices and our choices matter, because, if we fuck
> up, then baaaad shit can and will happen. Does happen. Freedom/
> responsibility are the sources of human purpose and we don't, in fact,
> need a God to plug this gap. Moreover, theistic belief (especially in
> its various religious concretions) is often a cop-out ... the whole
> God's will/Insh'allah concept (at least as uderstood and practiced by
> many).
>
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_Effect
>
> Francis
>
> On 20 Mai, 17:22, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I admit, I am with very few beliefs.  But I've been coming to the
> > conclusion that especially in a universe without a God, and us sitting
> > around with the illusion of free will, aren't they necessary?
>
> > Here I am, a confused human in a world of cause and effect, of atoms
> > bouncing off each other in very precise ways for no particular
> > reason.  Somehow I have to reconcile fact that I feel that I can make
> > choices not accordance with causation.  Not only do I need to
> > reconcile that, but I have to decide what to do.  I think this is
> > where belief and faith are necessary.- Hide quoted text -
>
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