I really don't want to dig up nothin'.
I just had to respond to the Lady :-)

peace & Love

On May 27, 9:40 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> Your digging up old bones Tink and when we dig up old bones all we can
> find is dead things.
>
> On May 27, 8:41 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > My dear gabby, I have never tried to make myself look meek or humble,
> > 'it ain't me babe, no no no it ain't me babe', :-)
> > The 'peace & Love' (on Earth)that I always sign off with is a goal
> > that I'm working towards. It would be sweet.
> > That post was very hastily done with little thought, I was needing to
> > break down my computer to pack for moving.
>
> > "That's how illusion always win." I don't understand :-(
>
> > peace & Love
>
> > On May 21, 4:36 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > No Tinky Winky, you yourself try to make yourself look meek and humble
> > > by finishing with the sugar coating "peace&love". I hear O. defending
> > > his position with more intelligent arguments than are accessible in an
> > > irrational debate. That's how illusion always wins.
>
> > > On 21 Mai, 04:08, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > You start off making a claim to superiority with imaginary back up,
> > > > ooohh you're so smart.
>
> > > > I know that they can cause your superior spiritual feeling by
> > > > suppressing the orientation center in the brain of anyone, including
> > > > atheist.
>
> > > > The collective intelligence is the source of insight, inspiration and
> > > > revelation. If you don't understand that you're a lot stupider than
> > > > you make out for atheist to be.
>
> > > > So you are ignorant of Jehovah? You deny the supreme being that is the
> > > > one true God. You are an atheist and all of the crap you have been
> > > > spewing is yours to own. Suck it up :-)
> > > > I know your 'transcendental', it is escapism because you haven't the
> > > > ability to deal with Life as it is here and now.
>
> > > > You haven't done anything but flaunt yourself as being spiritually
> > > > superior.
> > > > I'm an obnoxious know it all type and you make me look meek and
> > > > humble :-)
>
> > > > peace & Love
>
> > > > On May 20, 7:22 pm, omprem <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 20, 5:04 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 20, 8:39 am, omprem <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 19, 8:05 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > You are so right, attachment to Life is an addiction, if you 
> > > > > > > > are not
> > > > > > > > attached to Life you are DEAD.
>
> > > > > > > OMPREM:  Nope. All death means is a change of venue: 'you' still 
> > > > > > > exist
> > > > > > > in another form on another plane of existence.
>
> > > > > > Prove it. Die, then repeat that statement, I'll be listening :-)
>
> > > > > OMPREM:  If you had the capacity to hear astral beings you would not
> > > > > be here whining about them.
>
> > > > > > > > It is total BS to say Life is an obstacle to accessing God. If 
> > > > > > > > you are
> > > > > > > > dead your brain does Not generate the mind which is the only 
> > > > > > > > means by
> > > > > > > > which any person here and now or at any time in the past has 
> > > > > > > > ever
> > > > > > > > accessed God.
>
> > > > > > > OMPREM: There are many centers of consciousness besides the mind.
> > > > > > > Moreover, the mind survives death along with everything else 
> > > > > > > except
> > > > > > > the physical body.  Your mistake is to  equate the mind and
> > > > > > > consciousness as originating with brain function.
>
> > > > > > There is one center of consciousness, the brain. Your fantasy has no
> > > > > > substance, my brain does.
> > > > > > I'm very familiar with the realm of your beliefs.  I know what 
> > > > > > you're
> > > > > > talking about and it is your imagination boosted by dogma.
>
> > > > > OMPREM: You are sadly out of touch even with 'discoveries' in the
> > > > > scientific community. You could start with Dr. Candace Pert's,
> > > > > Molecules of Emotion and then get back to me.  It's OK, go ahead,
> > > > > google her because I know you have not heard of her.
>
> > > > > > > > Your dogma is nothing but one of many different descriptions of
> > > > > > > > something that is common to all mankind. The connection in our 
> > > > > > > > brain
> > > > > > > > generated mind is to our collective intelligence and it's 
> > > > > > > > called by a
> > > > > > > > hundred different names to support ones own personal 
> > > > > > > > glorification and
> > > > > > > > excuse to put someone else down as inferior.
>
> > > > > > > OMPREM:  Wrong. But the answer is right in front of you. If it is 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > brain that is totally responsible for the existence of the mind 
> > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > then can there be 'collective intelligence'?
>
> > > > > > The brain produces an energy that reaches beyond the physical being
> > > > > > and unites as the collective intelligence. It's very simple, no
> > > > > > mystical BS about it.
>
> > > > > OMPREM: This is too good to pass up. Now I know you atheists claim to
> > > > > value reason, logic and empiricism so show me this 'collective
> > > > > intelligence' and tell me how you know about it (on an empirical basis
> > > > > of course.) Is it something like the collective intelligence of
> > > > > lemmings as they hurtle over the cliff?
>
> > > > > > > According to your brain = consciousness theory there can only be 
> > > > > > > conventionally-held beliefs,
> > > > > > > that is individual beliefs that people have also agreed upon.
>
> > > > > > How do you come up with that? My brain = consciousness theory?
>
> > > > > >  But
>
> > > > > > > 'collective intelligence' which you also claim to believe in is
> > > > > > > different from those conventional beliefs. With 'collective
> > > > > > > intelligence' you are getting into Oneness and the paranormal, two
> > > > > > > areas that atheists deny.
>
> > > > > > The collective intelligence doesn't store BS. I'm an atheist by any
> > > > > > dogmatic definition of God. I understand the One and know there are
> > > > > > 'paranormal' things.
> > > > > > Your ignorance of what an atheist believes is showing :-)
>
> > > > > OMPREM:  You seem to be labouring under the misconception that
> > > > > religion posits an individualized God and you are wrong. No religion
> > > > > claims that God is an individual.
>
> > > > > Here's a hint: Religions say God is everywhere all the time and that
> > > > > it is all God. This, of course, means that God is not an individual
> > > > > because for God to be an individual there has to be somewhere where
> > > > > God is not which not possible according to religions. Do you get it
> > > > > now?
>
> > > > > > > > You need to get over your personal claim to superiority and 
> > > > > > > > recognize
> > > > > > > > the fact that our collective intelligence is God, as far as 
> > > > > > > > Life on
> > > > > > > > Earth is concerned. Your personal dogma is the support of 
> > > > > > > > selfishness.
> > > > > > > > And the world is going down the tube because of it.
> > > > > > > OMPREM: I agree that collective intelligence is God but so too
> > > > > > > therefore must each part of the collective intelligence be God. 
> > > > > > > It's
> > > > > > > all God.
>
> > > > > > Yes. So?
> > > > > >  It is your refusal to accept your own true nature and leads
>
> > > > > > > you to mistakenly categorize others who do so as 'selfish'.
>
> > > > > > I Am, a Live human. There is no selfishness to that claim by any
> > > > > > other.
>
> > > > > OMPREM: This is another mistake that atheists make. They focus
> > > > > exclusively on the physical aspect of being human and are completely
> > > > > unaware of the transcendental aspect. More sadly, because of their
> > > > > type of  consciousness that locks them into sense impressions, they
> > > > > are utterly incapable of knowing the transcendental about themselves.
>
> > > > > >  Those
> > > > > > > others, such as me, who are aware of and identify with their 
> > > > > > > Divine
> > > > > > > nature are most assuredly not selfish because to be selfish is to 
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > unaware of one's ultimate nature and to think of themselves as
> > > > > > > individual entities.
>
> > > > > > To flaunt your divine nature for self glorification and to claim
> > > > > > superiority IS selfish.
>
> > > > > OMPREM: And yet I didn't do that.
>
> > > > > >  Selfish is to stand outside of that collective
>
> > > > > > > consciousness and not know God. That seems to describe you by 
> > > > > > > your own
> > > > > > > admission. But all works out over time.
>
> > > > > > So you are saying that somebody can separate them self from the One?
> > > > > > I can't do that.
>
> > > > > >  peace & Love
>
> > > > > > > > On May 19, 1:32 pm, omprem <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Patanjali said that attachment to life is an addiction and an 
> > > > > > > > > obstacle
> > > > > > > > > to accessing God.
>
> > > > > > > > > In addition, there is a bit of equivocation on the use of the 
> > > > > > > > > phrase
> > > > > > > > > 'has to use' as opposed to 'uses'. The difference is quite
> > > > > > > > > pronounced.
>
> > > > > > > > > On May 19, 11:28 am, ornamentalmind 
> > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > RE: addiction
> > > > > > > > > > Many years ago, a very wise friend of mine defined 
> > > > > > > > > > quantitatively what
> > > > > > > > > > addiction was in a startling, to me, way. He said that 
> > > > > > > > > > anything (not
> > > > > > > > > > needed for life/sustenance) that one has to use at least 
> > > > > > > > > > once every
> > > > > > > > > > two weeks represented an addiction….of sorts. Here, I’m 
> > > > > > > > > > using a
> > > > > > > > > > specific meaning for the term…more like a psychic 
> > > > > > > > > > compensation.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On May 19, 4:28 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > So your addicted too, fran?  Gee, where would you place 
> > > > > > > > > > > yourself on
> > > > > > > > > > > the oomp scale of 1 to 10 on coffee addiction?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On May 19, 3:30 am, frantheman 
> > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, ID, I visited the Netherlands for a couple of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > hours last Friday!
> > > > > > > > > > > > One of the items I stocked up on was original Senseo 
> > > > > > > > > > > > coffee pads, they
> > > > > > > > > > > > cost twice as much in Germany :-)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 19 Mai, 09:18, iam deheretic <[email protected]>
>
> ...
>
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