No Tinky Winky, you yourself try to make yourself look meek and humble by finishing with the sugar coating "peace&love". I hear O. defending his position with more intelligent arguments than are accessible in an irrational debate. That's how illusion always wins.
On 21 Mai, 04:08, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > You start off making a claim to superiority with imaginary back up, > ooohh you're so smart. > > I know that they can cause your superior spiritual feeling by > suppressing the orientation center in the brain of anyone, including > atheist. > > The collective intelligence is the source of insight, inspiration and > revelation. If you don't understand that you're a lot stupider than > you make out for atheist to be. > > So you are ignorant of Jehovah? You deny the supreme being that is the > one true God. You are an atheist and all of the crap you have been > spewing is yours to own. Suck it up :-) > I know your 'transcendental', it is escapism because you haven't the > ability to deal with Life as it is here and now. > > You haven't done anything but flaunt yourself as being spiritually > superior. > I'm an obnoxious know it all type and you make me look meek and > humble :-) > > peace & Love > > On May 20, 7:22 pm, omprem <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On May 20, 5:04 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On May 20, 8:39 am, omprem <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On May 19, 8:05 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > You are so right, attachment to Life is an addiction, if you are not > > > > > attached to Life you are DEAD. > > > > > OMPREM: Nope. All death means is a change of venue: 'you' still exist > > > > in another form on another plane of existence. > > > > Prove it. Die, then repeat that statement, I'll be listening :-) > > > OMPREM: If you had the capacity to hear astral beings you would not > > be here whining about them. > > > > > > It is total BS to say Life is an obstacle to accessing God. If you are > > > > > dead your brain does Not generate the mind which is the only means by > > > > > which any person here and now or at any time in the past has ever > > > > > accessed God. > > > > > OMPREM: There are many centers of consciousness besides the mind. > > > > Moreover, the mind survives death along with everything else except > > > > the physical body. Your mistake is to equate the mind and > > > > consciousness as originating with brain function. > > > > There is one center of consciousness, the brain. Your fantasy has no > > > substance, my brain does. > > > I'm very familiar with the realm of your beliefs. I know what you're > > > talking about and it is your imagination boosted by dogma. > > > OMPREM: You are sadly out of touch even with 'discoveries' in the > > scientific community. You could start with Dr. Candace Pert's, > > Molecules of Emotion and then get back to me. It's OK, go ahead, > > google her because I know you have not heard of her. > > > > > > Your dogma is nothing but one of many different descriptions of > > > > > something that is common to all mankind. The connection in our brain > > > > > generated mind is to our collective intelligence and it's called by a > > > > > hundred different names to support ones own personal glorification and > > > > > excuse to put someone else down as inferior. > > > > > OMPREM: Wrong. But the answer is right in front of you. If it is the > > > > brain that is totally responsible for the existence of the mind how > > > > then can there be 'collective intelligence'? > > > > The brain produces an energy that reaches beyond the physical being > > > and unites as the collective intelligence. It's very simple, no > > > mystical BS about it. > > > OMPREM: This is too good to pass up. Now I know you atheists claim to > > value reason, logic and empiricism so show me this 'collective > > intelligence' and tell me how you know about it (on an empirical basis > > of course.) Is it something like the collective intelligence of > > lemmings as they hurtle over the cliff? > > > > > According to your brain = consciousness theory there can only be > > > > conventionally-held beliefs, > > > > that is individual beliefs that people have also agreed upon. > > > > How do you come up with that? My brain = consciousness theory? > > > > But > > > > > 'collective intelligence' which you also claim to believe in is > > > > different from those conventional beliefs. With 'collective > > > > intelligence' you are getting into Oneness and the paranormal, two > > > > areas that atheists deny. > > > > The collective intelligence doesn't store BS. I'm an atheist by any > > > dogmatic definition of God. I understand the One and know there are > > > 'paranormal' things. > > > Your ignorance of what an atheist believes is showing :-) > > > OMPREM: You seem to be labouring under the misconception that > > religion posits an individualized God and you are wrong. No religion > > claims that God is an individual. > > > Here's a hint: Religions say God is everywhere all the time and that > > it is all God. This, of course, means that God is not an individual > > because for God to be an individual there has to be somewhere where > > God is not which not possible according to religions. Do you get it > > now? > > > > > > You need to get over your personal claim to superiority and recognize > > > > > the fact that our collective intelligence is God, as far as Life on > > > > > Earth is concerned. Your personal dogma is the support of selfishness. > > > > > And the world is going down the tube because of it. > > > > OMPREM: I agree that collective intelligence is God but so too > > > > therefore must each part of the collective intelligence be God. It's > > > > all God. > > > > Yes. So? > > > It is your refusal to accept your own true nature and leads > > > > > you to mistakenly categorize others who do so as 'selfish'. > > > > I Am, a Live human. There is no selfishness to that claim by any > > > other. > > > OMPREM: This is another mistake that atheists make. They focus > > exclusively on the physical aspect of being human and are completely > > unaware of the transcendental aspect. More sadly, because of their > > type of consciousness that locks them into sense impressions, they > > are utterly incapable of knowing the transcendental about themselves. > > > > Those > > > > others, such as me, who are aware of and identify with their Divine > > > > nature are most assuredly not selfish because to be selfish is to be > > > > unaware of one's ultimate nature and to think of themselves as > > > > individual entities. > > > > To flaunt your divine nature for self glorification and to claim > > > superiority IS selfish. > > > OMPREM: And yet I didn't do that. > > > > Selfish is to stand outside of that collective > > > > > consciousness and not know God. That seems to describe you by your own > > > > admission. But all works out over time. > > > > So you are saying that somebody can separate them self from the One? > > > I can't do that. > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > On May 19, 1:32 pm, omprem <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Patanjali said that attachment to life is an addiction and an > > > > > > obstacle > > > > > > to accessing God. > > > > > > > In addition, there is a bit of equivocation on the use of the phrase > > > > > > 'has to use' as opposed to 'uses'. The difference is quite > > > > > > pronounced. > > > > > > > On May 19, 11:28 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > RE: addiction > > > > > > > Many years ago, a very wise friend of mine defined quantitatively > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > addiction was in a startling, to me, way. He said that anything > > > > > > > (not > > > > > > > needed for life/sustenance) that one has to use at least once > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > two weeks represented an addiction….of sorts. Here, I’m using a > > > > > > > specific meaning for the term…more like a psychic compensation. > > > > > > > > On May 19, 4:28 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > So your addicted too, fran? Gee, where would you place > > > > > > > > yourself on > > > > > > > > the oomp scale of 1 to 10 on coffee addiction? > > > > > > > > > On May 19, 3:30 am, frantheman <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey, ID, I visited the Netherlands for a couple of hours last > > > > > > > > > Friday! > > > > > > > > > One of the items I stocked up on was original Senseo coffee > > > > > > > > > pads, they > > > > > > > > > cost twice as much in Germany :-) > > > > > > > > > > On 19 Mai, 09:18, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > You haven't told me what you have difficult about my > > > > > > > > > > comments. > > > > > > > > > > > That is easy enough i believe you would sit in copyright > > > > > > > > > > infringement, > > > > > > > > > > simply because what you have said about spirituality is not > > > > > > > > > > original.. most > > > > > > > > > > of it is either quoted or paraphrased from what others have > > > > > > > > > > said. As I read > > > > > > > > > > what you say I find it difficult to believe you are not a > > > > > > > > > > fundamentalist > > > > > > > > > > christian, despite what you say to the contrary. They can > > > > > > > > > > talk a lot of talk > > > > > > > > > > but sadly they tend to lack insight as to the meaning of > > > > > > > > > > the words they say, > > > > > > > > > > as a group. But there are some that do tend to rise above > > > > > > > > > > this tendency. > > > > > > > > > > Your hatred of others and their belief show me that you are > > > > > > > > > > insecure in your > > > > > > > > > > own beliefs, and there is a lot of confusion going on > > > > > > > > > > within you. Your > > > > > > > > > > hatred of atheist tells me you are afraid you are one deep > > > > > > > > > > inside, and that > > > > > > > > > > frightens you very very much, almost like a child that is > > > > > > > > > > frightened of the > > > > > > > > > > unknown. You even called me an atheist, my guardians had a > > > > > > > > > > good laugh. there > > > > > > > > > > are many people here with a wide range of views and each > > > > > > > > > > one is valid. Many > > > > > > > > > > of these people are far smarter and wiser than I am. Many > > > > > > > > > > of us are > > > > > > > > > > considered "Elders" by our given communities, Yet your > > > > > > > > > > treat them with > > > > > > > > > > absolute disrespect. > > > > > > > > > > I asked you to share your personal spiritual experiences. > > > > > > > > > > You reply with " > > > > > > > > > > You haven't told me what you have difficult about my > > > > > > > > > > comments." Well there > > > > > > > > > > is a difference between comments and spiritual > > ... > > Erfahren Sie mehr » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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