Ooh, another threat. Speaking of pointless, how pointless is it for someone to post only about his version of style and not make a single post that deals directly with a single topic under discussion in a rational way?
On May 22, 10:15 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > It doesn't matter if the person is stupid or not, the guidelines are clear. > Lawyerly trolling is still trolling, and trying to engage in this sort of > petty behaviour is pointless. Reminding participants of the clearly posted > guidelines they agreed to follow upon joining is not a threat, it's a > reminder, and your attempts at antagonism are tiresome. Comply with the > guidelines, or find another group. > > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:59 AM, omprem <[email protected]> wrote: > > > But what if the person is stupid? 'Stupid' is after a word that > > carries meaning. It may not be they are stupid because they disagree > > with one's point but that they are just stupid. Are you now acting as > > the dictionary police. > > > You should know by now that I can defend my views on their own grounds > > and do not defend them by calling others stupid because they do not > > agree with them. Such people may be stupid on other grounds but not > > that one. > > > Incidentally, you are quite adept at making threats. Is that not a > > violation of rational discourse? > > > On May 21, 11:29 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Ad Hominem is latin for "to the man", meaning an attack against the > > person. The vast majority of the membership here know this, but since you > > disagreed with my warning as a moderator, you must be unfamiliar with the > > phrase. Calling someone stupid, or implying they are stupid if they disagree > > with your point, is an ad hominem attack prohibited by our posting > > guidelines, clearly listed on our home page. You would do well to > > familiarize yourself with them if you desire is to be a long term member > > here. > > > > [ Attached Message ]From:omprem <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" < > > [email protected]>Date:Thu, 21 May 2009 07:11:58 -0700 > > (PDT)Local:Thurs, May 21 2009 10:11 amSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: Purpose of > > Astral body > > > > It is not ad hom but an expression of his belief mistaken though it > > > is. > > > > You seem to be a bit uptight. > > > > On May 20, 10:19 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Tinker, your third paragraph is clear ad hominem. I'm getting a little > > tired > > > > of repeating myself about the posting guidelines. Take it down or you > > go > > > > back on moderation. > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > You start off making a claim to superiority with imaginary back up, > > > > > ooohh you're so smart. > > > > > > I know that they can cause your superior spiritual feeling by > > > > > suppressing the orientation center in the brain of anyone, including > > > > > atheist. > > > > > > The collective intelligence is the source of insight, inspiration and > > > > > revelation. If you don't understand that you're a lot stupider than > > > > > you make out for atheist to be. > > > > > > So you are ignorant of Jehovah? You deny the supreme being that is > > the > > > > > one true God. You are an atheist and all of the crap you have been > > > > > spewing is yours to own. Suck it up :-) > > > > > I know your 'transcendental', it is escapism because you haven't the > > > > > ability to deal with Life as it is here and now. > > > > > > You haven't done anything but flaunt yourself as being spiritually > > > > > superior. > > > > > I'm an obnoxious know it all type and you make me look meek and > > > > > humble :-) > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > On May 20, 7:22 pm, omprem <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On May 20, 5:04 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On May 20, 8:39 am, omprem <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On May 19, 8:05 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You are so right, attachment to Life is an addiction, if you > > are > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > attached to Life you are DEAD. > > > > > > > > > OMPREM: Nope. All death means is a change of venue: 'you' > > still > > > > > exist > > > > > > > > in another form on another plane of existence. > > > > > > > > Prove it. Die, then repeat that statement, I'll be listening :-) > > > > > > > OMPREM: If you had the capacity to hear astral beings you would > > not > > > > > > be here whining about them. > > > > > > > > > > It is total BS to say Life is an obstacle to accessing God. > > If you > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > dead your brain does Not generate the mind which is the only > > means > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > which any person here and now or at any time in the past has > > ever > > > > > > > > > accessed God. > > > > > > > > > OMPREM: There are many centers of consciousness besides the > > mind. > > > > > > > > Moreover, the mind survives death along with everything else > > except > > > > > > > > the physical body. Your mistake is to equate the mind and > > > > > > > > consciousness as originating with brain function. > > > > > > > > There is one center of consciousness, the brain. Your fantasy has > > no > > > > > > > substance, my brain does. > > > > > > > I'm very familiar with the realm of your beliefs. I know what > > you're > > > > > > > talking about and it is your imagination boosted by dogma. > > > > > > > OMPREM: You are sadly out of touch even with 'discoveries' in the > > > > > > scientific community. You could start with Dr. Candace Pert's, > > > > > > Molecules of Emotion and then get back to me. It's OK, go ahead, > > > > > > google her because I know you have not heard of her. > > > > > > > > > > Your dogma is nothing but one of many different descriptions > > of > > > > > > > > > something that is common to all mankind. The connection in > > our > > > > > brain > > > > > > > > > generated mind is to our collective intelligence and it's > > called by > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > hundred different names to support ones own personal > > glorification > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > excuse to put someone else down as inferior. > > > > > > > > > OMPREM: Wrong. But the answer is right in front of you. If it > > is the > > > > > > > > brain that is totally responsible for the existence of the mind > > how > > > > > > > > then can there be 'collective intelligence'? > > > > > > > > The brain produces an energy that reaches beyond the physical > > being > > > > > > > and unites as the collective intelligence. It's very simple, no > > > > > > > mystical BS about it. > > > > > > > OMPREM: This is too good to pass up. Now I know you atheists claim > > to > > > > > > value reason, logic and empiricism so show me this 'collective > > > > > > intelligence' and tell me how you know about it (on an empirical > > basis > > > > > > of course.) Is it something like the collective intelligence of > > > > > > lemmings as they hurtle over the cliff? > > > > > > > > > According to your brain = consciousness theory there can only > > be > > > > > conventionally-held beliefs, > > > > > > > > that is individual beliefs that people have also agreed upon. > > > > > > > > How do you come up with that? My brain = consciousness theory? > > > > > > > > But > > > > > > > > > 'collective intelligence' which you also claim to believe in is > > > > > > > > different from those conventional beliefs. With 'collective > > > > > > > > intelligence' you are getting into Oneness and the paranormal, > > two > > > > > > > > areas that atheists deny. > > > > > > > > The collective intelligence doesn't store BS. I'm an atheist by > > any > > > > > > > dogmatic definition of God. I understand the One and know there > > are > > > > > > > 'paranormal' things. > > > > > > > Your ignorance of what an atheist believes is showing :-) > > > > > > > OMPREM: You seem to be labouring under the misconception that > > > > > > religion posits an individualized God and you are wrong. No > > religion > > > > > > claims that God is an individual. > > > > > > > Here's a hint: Religions say God is everywhere all the time and > > that > > > > > > it is all God. This, of course, means that God is not an individual > > > > > > because for God to be an individual there has to be somewhere where > > > > > > God is not which not possible according to religions. Do you get it > > > > > > now? > > > > > > > > > > You need to get over your personal claim to superiority and > > > > > recognize > > > > > > > > > the fact that our collective intelligence is God, as far as > > Life on > > > > > > > > > Earth is concerned. Your personal dogma is the support of > > > > > selfishness. > > > > > > > > > And the world is going down the tube because of it. > > > > > > > > OMPREM: I agree that collective intelligence is God but so too > > > > > > > > therefore must each part of the collective intelligence be God. > > It's > > > > > > > > all God. > > > > > > > > Yes. So? > > > > > > > It is your refusal to accept your own true nature and leads > > > > > > > > > you to mistakenly categorize others who do so as 'selfish'. > > > > > > > > I Am, a Live human. There is no selfishness to that claim by any > > > > > > > other. > > > > > > > OMPREM: This is another mistake that atheists make. They focus > > > > > > exclusively on the physical aspect of being human and are > > completely > > > > > > unaware of the transcendental aspect. More sadly, because of their > > > > > > type of consciousness that locks them into sense impressions, they > > > > > > are utterly incapable of knowing the transcendental about > > themselves. > > > > > > > > Those > > > > > > > > others, such as me, who are aware of and identify with their > > Divine > > > > > > > > nature are most assuredly not selfish because to be selfish is > > to be > > > > > > > > unaware of one's ultimate nature and to think of themselves as > > > > > > > > individual entities. > > > > > > > > To flaunt your divine nature for self glorification and to claim > > > > > > > superiority IS selfish. > > > > > > > OMPREM: And yet I didn't do that. > > > > > > > > Selfish is to stand outside of that collective > > > > > > > > > consciousness and not know > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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