Yes. DP=Data Processing. I see now Jim wrote "data storage" in the original post, not "data processing".
On Jun 20, 4:17 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > Data Processing? > > peace & Love > > On Jun 20, 2:50 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hey Alan, > > What is DP? > > > [ Attached Message ]From:Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds > > Eye\"" <[email protected]>Date:Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:15:48 -0700 > > (PDT)Local:Sat, Jun 20 2009 1:15 amSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: Answering > > Ultimate Questions > > > Hi, Jim. I think we DP guys have an professional affinity for the view > > you expressed that "all that happens at death is that the physical > > body cease to function". We have so many models in DP of software as a > > quasi-mathematical entity outliving the hardware substrate. Hardware > > comes and goes but bits are immortal. Read any Plato? You should. He > > formulated these ideas before Christ was born. There have been some > > improvements since then, however, it is a quantum leap over the crass > > materialism in which it is thought death is total annihilation. > > > You say "the only way the infinite consciousness can experience this > > universe from within the universe is to use such a veil to conceal > > from the individual’s consciousness his connection to the whole. ".. > > I take in-finite to mean not finite. As in: no limits. But it would > > seem to me if the only way an infinite consciousness can experience > > the universe is by making use of us, then the we can think of an even > > greater consciousness: one not having that limit. One who wills we > > exist not out of some lacking, but simply because the One knew we > > would enjoy the gift of existence. So the question to ask yourself is: > > do we existence out of need? Or Love? > > > On Jun 18, 1:16 pm, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > For some time, being retired, I have been thinking about such > > > ultimate questions as: why are we here, what is life all about, what > > > happens when we die, and do we continue to exist after we die. Drawing > > > on a lifetime of reading and experience, I think I’ve arrived at some > > > unusual answers. > > > To begin building a foundation for those answers, I first wondered > > > about just who I am; what is it that is me? I don’t believe I’m the > > > reflection I see in the mirror. No. If I lost an arm or leg, I still > > > believe I would be 100% me. It seems that the real me, then, is the > > > consciousness that is within my body. Hmmm. How might I check this? > > > How about my memory. During part of my working career I was > > > involved > > > with data storage and encoding, the object being to pack as much > > > information into as little storage as possible. If you think about all > > > the things you remember – scenes, happenings, conversations, other > > > sounds, smells, numbers, taught information, etc. – and the capacity > > > of the human brain, it is clear that the human brain can remember at > > > most only a day or two of recent events. So where are the things I > > > remember stored? > > > I happen to have had a couple of out-of-body experiences. I recall > > > being conscious of looking at my body lying on a bed, and of being > > > able to look around the room and out the window. Each time the > > > experience scared me, and I quickly returned to my body. But while out- > > > of-body I now realize that I could recall everything I could think of > > > while in my body; the me that was in my body was still the me that was > > > out of my body. > > > Many books describe out-of-body experiences. The best, I think, is > > > Thirty Years Among the Dead by Dr. Carl Wickland. In it, he discusses > > > numerous examples of patients who had died yet whose spirit was still > > > “here,” entwined with another body. In each case, the spirit of the > > > now dead person had what seems to be a perfectly normal memory of > > > their life, and exhibited the personality quirks they had while alive. > > > So it seems that the human memory resides elsewhere that in the human > > > body. > > > Fine, but still why am I here? Indeed, why is anybody or anything > > > here? Consider what “here” is. We know that this world, and everything > > > else in the universe, is matter disbursed in an almost infinite amount > > > of space. But then we also know that E=mc². In words, this "here" can > > > be reduced to the simple statement that all is energy, even matter. So > > > “here” is a vast pool of energy, a pool that includes each of us as > > > well as everything else in this physical universe. Yet it seems that > > > our memory does not reside in this physical universe, given that it is > > > not the me in the mirror but is present in out-of-body experiences. > > > Could it be that there is a consciousness, what might be called an > > > infinite consciousness, that contains each of our memories as well as > > > everything else that has ever happened anywhere in the universe at any > > > time, and maybe even a lot more than that? I don’t know of anything to > > > disprove this possibility, so let’s assume for now that it might be > > > correct. > > > So why am I here? Well, all that is in the universe might be here > > > simply because it pleases the infinite consciousness that this is so. > > > It is simply an exercise of an attribute of that consciousness. Fine. > > > But why am I here? Assume that the infinite consciousness wishes to > > > experience this physical universe. Of course this could be done by > > > endowing each thing in the universe with its own consciousness. That > > > consciousness would know that it was part of a much greater whole. But > > > it would also know that it was discrete in and of itself. Yet we don’t > > > know that – each of us believes that we are complete and separate from > > > all others; we have the freedom to be whatever we choose and do > > > whatever we want. It’s as if there is a veil or curtain between our > > > discrete consciousness and the infinite consciousness, this veil > > > concealing our connection to the whole. (Unless we ponder such things > > > as where our memories are stored.) Put differently, the only way the > > > infinite consciousness can experience this universe from within the > > > universe is to use such a veil to conceal from the individual’s > > > consciousness his connection to the whole. Could that be why we are > > > here? I think so. > > > So what happens at death? Drawing on this view of consciousness, > > > both > > > individual and infinite, it would seem that all that happens at death > > > is that the physical body ceases to function. The individual > > > consciousness continues. And that is just what books like Dr. > > > Wickland’s report. If you want to know what happens beyond death, the > > > Seth books by Jane Roberts gives one view, or answer, a view that > > > seems to build on that expressed by Dr. Wickland. > > > I would welcome reading your reaction to all this. Does it make > > > sense > > > to you? Is this a rational and sufficient explanation of the ultimate > > > questions, or of why we are here? Or not? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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