On Jun 20, 12:18 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> What about the yang of unity's yin?
It adds up to One
Is there another planet somewhere
> with intelligent life that will slip into Chaos while we evolve to
> keep the balance?
The imbalance caused by free will is contained in the Earth subset by
our collective intelligence.
Hey, I'm just asking. Somebody has to be the
> gadfly.
You're not bothering me :-) I'm happy to answer any question that I
can.
peace & Love
>
> dj
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Tinker<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hey Jim, welcome :-)
>
> > I don't want to dispute your theory, but I have an answer to the
> > question of 'why?' we are here that doesn't rely on anything
> > spiritual.
>
> > We are here, very simply, as the result of progress by a yin/yang
> > intelligence.
> > As in the void that would have pre-existed the big bang theory, a
> > single pulse of energy (intelligence) was born (manifest or whatever).
> > Action and reaction, very similar to the 0s & 1s of computer
> > technology, began the building of our existence. The intelligence grew
> > to the point of establishing Life. Life progressed to the point that
> > Life learned to manipulate its environment (mankind acquired free
> > will). Since the yin/yang intelligence is perfectly balanced, to
> > compensate for the imbalanced actions of free will, our collective
> > intelligence came to be. (This would be what you call the infinite
> > consciousness.)
>
> > We are here to progress.
> > The next step of progress, on the scale of free will, will be to
> > incorporate the collective intelligence into the physical world to
> > balance our free will actions. The effect of that would be the
> > equivalent of what all the religions seek as Unity of mankind.
> > That would bring about the Kingdom of Jesus, the Transcending of
> > Buddha and/or the change to the 'direction' of Society.
>
> > peace & Love
>
> > On Jun 18, 3:16 pm, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> For some time, being retired, I have been thinking about such
> >> ultimate questions as: why are we here, what is life all about, what
> >> happens when we die, and do we continue to exist after we die. Drawing
> >> on a lifetime of reading and experience, I think I’ve arrived at some
> >> unusual answers.
> >> To begin building a foundation for those answers, I first wondered
> >> about just who I am; what is it that is me? I don’t believe I’m the
> >> reflection I see in the mirror. No. If I lost an arm or leg, I still
> >> believe I would be 100% me. It seems that the real me, then, is the
> >> consciousness that is within my body. Hmmm. How might I check this?
> >> How about my memory. During part of my working career I was
> >> involved
> >> with data storage and encoding, the object being to pack as much
> >> information into as little storage as possible. If you think about all
> >> the things you remember – scenes, happenings, conversations, other
> >> sounds, smells, numbers, taught information, etc. – and the capacity
> >> of the human brain, it is clear that the human brain can remember at
> >> most only a day or two of recent events. So where are the things I
> >> remember stored?
> >> I happen to have had a couple of out-of-body experiences. I recall
> >> being conscious of looking at my body lying on a bed, and of being
> >> able to look around the room and out the window. Each time the
> >> experience scared me, and I quickly returned to my body. But while out-
> >> of-body I now realize that I could recall everything I could think of
> >> while in my body; the me that was in my body was still the me that was
> >> out of my body.
> >> Many books describe out-of-body experiences. The best, I think, is
> >> Thirty Years Among the Dead by Dr. Carl Wickland. In it, he discusses
> >> numerous examples of patients who had died yet whose spirit was still
> >> “here,” entwined with another body. In each case, the spirit of the
> >> now dead person had what seems to be a perfectly normal memory of
> >> their life, and exhibited the personality quirks they had while alive.
> >> So it seems that the human memory resides elsewhere that in the human
> >> body.
> >> Fine, but still why am I here? Indeed, why is anybody or anything
> >> here? Consider what “here” is. We know that this world, and everything
> >> else in the universe, is matter disbursed in an almost infinite amount
> >> of space. But then we also know that E=mc². In words, this "here" can
> >> be reduced to the simple statement that all is energy, even matter. So
> >> “here” is a vast pool of energy, a pool that includes each of us as
> >> well as everything else in this physical universe. Yet it seems that
> >> our memory does not reside in this physical universe, given that it is
> >> not the me in the mirror but is present in out-of-body experiences.
> >> Could it be that there is a consciousness, what might be called an
> >> infinite consciousness, that contains each of our memories as well as
> >> everything else that has ever happened anywhere in the universe at any
> >> time, and maybe even a lot more than that? I don’t know of anything to
> >> disprove this possibility, so let’s assume for now that it might be
> >> correct.
> >> So why am I here? Well, all that is in the universe might be here
> >> simply because it pleases the infinite consciousness that this is so.
> >> It is simply an exercise of an attribute of that consciousness. Fine.
> >> But why am I here? Assume that the infinite consciousness wishes to
> >> experience this physical universe. Of course this could be done by
> >> endowing each thing in the universe with its own consciousness. That
> >> consciousness would know that it was part of a much greater whole. But
> >> it would also know that it was discrete in and of itself. Yet we don’t
> >> know that – each of us believes that we are complete and separate from
> >> all others; we have the freedom to be whatever we choose and do
> >> whatever we want. It’s as if there is a veil or curtain between our
> >> discrete consciousness and the infinite consciousness, this veil
> >> concealing our connection to the whole. (Unless we ponder such things
> >> as where our memories are stored.) Put differently, the only way the
> >> infinite consciousness can experience this universe from within the
> >> universe is to use such a veil to conceal from the individual’s
> >> consciousness his connection to the whole. Could that be why we are
> >> here? I think so.
> >> So what happens at death? Drawing on this view of consciousness,
> >> both
> >> individual and infinite, it would seem that all that happens at death
> >> is that the physical body ceases to function. The individual
> >> consciousness continues. And that is just what books like Dr.
> >> Wickland’s report. If you want to know what happens beyond death, the
> >> Seth books by Jane Roberts gives one view, or answer, a view that
> >> seems to build on that expressed by Dr. Wickland.
> >> I would welcome reading your reaction to all this. Does it make
> >> sense
> >> to you? Is this a rational and sufficient explanation of the ultimate
> >> questions, or of why we are here? Or not?
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