The ignorance surrounding death in the west is legion!
On Jun 24, 9:20 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
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> Yes I agree, it is about perspective. My perspective for example
> tells me that death is not inherently bad, everything dies, it is as
> much a part of life as that other constant, yup taxes!
>
> Perhaps then fear of death, or a lack of understanding of death makes
> some see it as evil?
>
> Yes Lonaz, I like where you are going with this.
>
> On 24 June, 17:13, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > I guess everything depends on perspective. The death is only bad for
> > the person dying any anyone who is dependent on him, the death is good
> > for the killer. Evil is our way of rejecting bad, making it external
> > to ourselves, it allows us to deal with bad things quickly and without
> > mercy.
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> > Now, that being said, I do believe in a greater good, but I think
> > those 'rules' are based in society and culture.
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> > On Jun 24, 11:04 am, "[email protected]"
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> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Ummm interesting, I can sorta of see the logic in that.
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> > > On 24 June, 17:01, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > Yup.
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> > > > On Jun 24, 10:59 am, "[email protected]"
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> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Are you saying here that the killing of a human by another for
> > > > > pleaseure is bad, and only evil if one cannot understand it?
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> > > > > On 24 June, 16:53, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > Pleasure is a need being fulfilled. A serial killer has the same
> > > > > > needs as we do, he just goes about them in a way that inteferes with
> > > > > > other's needs in the worst way. Sure it's scary, we don't want to
> > > > > > die It's also easy to understand intellectually. But there are
> > > > > > different levels of understanding, true understanding is when you
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > envision yourself doing it, grok?
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> > > > > > On Jun 24, 10:48 am, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > 2009/6/24 Lonlaz <[email protected]>
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> > > > > > > > All people are trying to do good, feed themselves, clothes
> > > > > > > > themselves,
> > > > > > > > satisfy their needs. Bad is when people's actions, or any other
> > > > > > > > events, trod on your search for contentment. And, evil is just
> > > > > > > > bad
> > > > > > > > things you can't, or don't want to understand. It's occlusion
> > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > knowledge makes it that much more dark and scary.
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> > > > > > > Oh I totally disagree with that.
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> > > > > > > Whilst some serial killers are mission-oriented in their motives,
> > > > > > > others
> > > > > > > have killed purely for pleasure. Example: whilst I understand
> > > > > > > what motivated
> > > > > > > Robert Hansen's murders, that doesn't make them any less dark and
> > > > > > > scary.
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