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dj On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Slip Disc<[email protected]> wrote: > > I sometimes get carried away with thoughts while I'm chopping at a > head of lettuce. Many heads should roll, heads of lettuce of course. > (;-) > > I have officially named tomorrow "Madoff Monday" as it is the day in > which our wonderful Mr. Madoff receives his sentence! His attorney > thinks he should get 12 years and the rest of the world thinks he > should get 150 years. See new thread! > > On Jun 28, 6:09 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> We're in a mess in the UK on discipline. I sometimes think its not >> the stocks we want back, but a notion of shame! >> >> On 27 June, 22:25, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Yes, instilling fear within anyone or anything for that matter is >> > effective. You know what they say Don, might makes right! hehehe! >> >> > Yep, the paper tiger! Allusions to the nomo gitmo thread and another >> > where I mentioned my sentiments of American citizens having a sole >> > purpose of maintaining the semblance of the world. >> >> > On Jun 27, 8:22 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > So a brutal power that uses brutality to stay in power is a viable >> > > recourse? >> >> > > No, of course not. I play Devil's advocate so much I forget to >> > > specify that's what I'm up to. My point is that it is effective. It >> > > works to control a society. This is what the Warlords in Samalia(and >> > > other places) do to remain in power. If they didn't do it they'd be >> > > killed and someone else would. That doesn't make it right(please no >> > > tired 'might makes right' tropes) but to remain in power over a >> > > largely uneducated populace it's the only thing that works. Maybe >> > > control of water or some other resource might help but fear is the >> > > biggest motivator. >> >> > > The threat of force(violence) only works if it is known you are >> > > willing and capable of using it. When you have moronic politicians >> > > making statements along the lines of "I voted to threaten to use >> > > force, not actually use it" other countries see us as the paper tiger >> > > we have become. This makes us less effective as the defunct global >> > > policeman we used to be. Perhaps this is a good thing. Perhaps it's >> > > not our job to save other people's from genocide. >> >> > > It's a brave new world. >> >> > > dj >> >> > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Slip Disc<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > To maintain a semblance of >> > > > order in a brutal society brutal methods are necessary. Making them >> > > > public would be even more effective.<<<DJ >> >> > > > So a brutal power that uses brutality to stay in power is a viable >> > > > recourse? You find justification in murder for the sake of >> > > > squelching the voice of justice, the voice of protest, the act of >> > > > fairness etc? >> >> > > > Brutality in controlling populations is akin to genocide. >> >> > > > On Jun 26, 8:50 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> I think a finger or two would have been sufficient :-) >> >> > > >> Ah, Tink, a man after my own heart. I hate thieves and liars. Often >> > > >> murder is more noble then these two traits of humanity. A thumb on >> > > >> first offense and the other if he does it again. Brutality is >> > > >> effective in controlling populations. Look how well it is working in >> > > >> Iran. The protests are effectively over. To maintain a semblance of >> > > >> order in a brutal society brutal methods are necessary. Making them >> > > >> public would be even more effective. Remember the brutality after >> > > >> the Shah was brought down in 1979? Tens of thousands were rounded up >> > > >> and murdered. It kept the populace quiet for a generation. This is >> > > >> why keel hauling was used on navy ships in the past. Many times crews >> > > >> were made up of criminals and drunks and scurvy dogs. The almost >> > > >> certain death of a keel hauling and subsequent parading of the flesh >> > > >> torn bodies would scare anyone into towing the line. >> >> > > >> On capital punishment. How about public executions? What would be the >> > > >> effect of this? Would it galvanize the public against the death >> > > >> penalty or for it? Would it serve as more of a detriment? We rid the >> > > >> world of a lot of murderers here in Texas every year but it hardly >> > > >> makes a ripple in the news cycle. Put that on cable TV and make it >> > > >> interesting by putting them in a cage with a pack of hungry wolves and >> > > >> it would get international attention. Not that I advocate anything >> > > >> like that; I'm just putting it out there for discussion. >> >> > > >> dj >> >> > > >> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Tinker<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > >> > On Jun 25, 1:45 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> >> As religious tolerance continues, what are we to think about this? >> > > >> > It's time to quit tolerating religion. >> >> > > >> >> What are we to do about this? >> > > >> > Change the 'direction' of Society. >> >> > > >> >> What do you think? >> > > >> > I think a finger or two would have been sufficient :-) >> >> > > >> > peace & Love >> >> > > >> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8118306.stm > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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