"We have met the enemy and he is us." - Lord of the Flies
On Jun 30, 8:29 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
> WOW again, Molly ! The delight your words caused is suffusing. Many
> thanks.
>
> Kabir says : I moved about looking at the bad, the evil. Then, I saw
> myself. And knew.
>
> On Jun 30, 7:38 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > "Should we exterminate the bad brains or continue on with this notion
> > of every life is sacred and capable of redemption?"
>
> > Very nice, Slip. this is the notion that moves us forward in western
> > society. The application of it gets murky. It is easy enough for me
> > to redeem all others in my heart by seeing them in their highest
> > potential and wishing them the best in spirit. Tougher to apply in
> > cases like Gacy and Madoff as a society. We heard the word evil being
> > tossed about in many of the victim statements in the Madoff trial.
> > The folks who were happy to get the larger than possible returns on
> > their money but outraged at their losses when the scheme fell apart
> > see Madoff as evil, but I wonder how much of the responsibility they
> > carry for what occurred. It does not eliminate the need for laws and
> > guardrails for the investment industry, was the absence of them the
> > responsibility of evil doers as well? Evil in terms of those parts of
> > us that need to possess and identify with external "powers" and
> > "acquisitions" permeates our western world experience, setting us up
> > for the fall. It also distracts us from finding our worth in more
> > internal and intrinsic aspects of life. Defining evil can be slippery
> > it seems...
>
> > On Jun 28, 11:50 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > Nice view point RR, and Welcome! I don't know that it takes any
> > > amount of effort to be good or bad depending on the nature of the
> > > person in question. Perhaps it would take a great deal of effort for
> > > Gacy to be a good person but little effort for Mother Teresa,
> > > conversely it would take a great effort for Mother Teresa to be a bad
> > > person and little effort for Gacy.
> > > I sometimes wonder if souls are pre-programed for good and evil. Many
> > > years ago when I taught school I noticed there were kids that were
> > > simply incorrigible, lacking in the sense of goodness, simply the imps
> > > in the world. This world could be a paradise except for the spoil
> > > that has been tossed in, the wrench that causes the leaks, the rotten
> > > apple that ruins the bushel and simply the rotten people that corrupt
> > > it all.
> > > Should we exterminate the bad brains or continue on with this notion
> > > of every life is sacred and capable of redemption?
>
> > > On Jun 28, 9:50 am, RacerRick <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > I believe that just as darkness is not necessarily the opposite of
> > > > light as much as it is the absence of light, evil is the absence of
> > > > good not the opposite. It takes a great deal of effort to be good, yet
> > > > to be evil or bad can require no effort at all. I believe that true
> > > > evilness is only fiction anyway. Good for movies and books. Even
> > > > people like Gacy or Dahmer are just devoid of the morality we consider
> > > > sacred. They placed no higher value on human life than on plant life.
> > > > There was something wrong with their brains. Bad connections
> > > > somewhere. That is no excuse for their behavior, they still need to be
> > > > removed from society...and extinguished.
>
> > > > Cool topic!
>
> > > > Rick
>
> > > > On Jun 24, 4:51 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > A simple question, or is it?- Hide quoted text -
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