We may not be reading the same book, Slip, or even the same edition. And an argument could be made on the basis of social change of a slaveholder/slave relationship and its impact upon politics and personal conduct. For we do the same with the clergy/pederasty, judges/ bribes, business/fraud, etc. The crossing of lines is social change. However, I digress...:-)
On Jul 1, 9:49�pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > That is not representative of social change rigsy, but simply an > example of political and personal impropriety. �Can you get on the > same page, please. > > On Jul 1, 8:49�pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > We had Thomas Jefferson and his Black mistress, Slip. > > > On Jul 1, 8:38 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > We cannot advance when we keep repeating the same pattern. How can we > > > possibly improve on what is contained in the pattern as long as we > > > adhere to the pattern?<<< Tinker > > > > That is the whole point gruff was making, that we are not actually > > > following a pattern that never changes but the changes are subtle in > > > nature and hardly recognizable, unless of course you can see the > > > changes in society over the past thousand or more years. We are > > > making the changes, that is why you have a black President of the > > > United States, something that would not have been possible a mere 50 > > > years ago. Women are making a dent in the gender gap and unfortunately > > > politicians are as corrupt as they have always been, se la vie. > > > > On Jul 1, 6:35 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > "I can grant certain psychic/psychological/spiritual patterns that we > > > > repeat *until we learn better* but I see advancement in that as well." > > > > > We cannot advance when we keep repeating the same pattern. How can we > > > > possibly improve on what is contained in the pattern as long as we > > > > adhere to the pattern? The pattern IS "be the change you want to see" > > > > and it doesn't work after thousands of years being practiced by the > > > > majority of mankind. > > > > To change the pattern, which basically turns the consciousness inward > > > > to our One-ness, we need to bring our One-ness out to a 'common' > > > > consciousness. > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > On Jul 1, 2:22 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > So am I right in assuming you don't see any progress toward becoming > > > > > more civilized over our span? That we are just repeating old patterns > > > > > well spoken about in literature and art over and over? > > > > > > I can grant certain psychic/psychological/spiritual patterns that we > > > > > repeat until we learn better but I see advancement in that as well. > > > > > We're like a snake biting our own tail when it comes to behavior > > > > > patterns but that snake gets longer and fatter each cycle round. I > > > > > see that growth as progress as in moving forward. That snake doesn't > > > > > just run around itself at one place, it moves in 360 degrees from > > > > > where we first saw it. But we are getting better at handling this > > > > > amazing adventure of becoming more human (it seems to me) in spite of > > > > > this 'veneer of civilization' we hold so gingerly because on another > > > > > level we know a lot of it is a pretense, a denial. It amazes me > > > > > sometimes the number of times I've said, oh yeah, I can do that > > > > > without a clue. > > > > > > On Jul 1, 12:35 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > It was the OT. Adam and Eve. Abel and Cain. The Greek myths and > > > > > > tragedies. All that has followed is just a variation. > > > > > > > On Jul 1, 2:20 am, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Oh yes. I like to say that our veneer of civilization is thin and > > > > > > > easily stripped away. > > > > > > > > On Jun 30, 3:17 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > "The difference between you and me is one...bad...day." - The > > > > > > > > Joker > > > > > > > > When it comes to violating social norms, it takes a > > > > > > > > surprisingly little > > > > > > > > amount of trauma to begin to shift to "the other side". > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:57 PM, ornamentalmind > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > "We have met the enemy and he is us." - Lord of the Flies > > > > > > > > Are you sure? I thought it was Walt Kelley's Pogo who nomed that > > > > > > > plume.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
