"The difference between you and me is one...bad...day." - The Joker
When it comes to violating social norms, it takes a surprisingly little
amount of trauma to begin to shift to "the other side".

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:57 PM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> "We have met the enemy and he is us." - Lord of the Flies
>
> On Jun 30, 8:29 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
> > WOW again, Molly !  The delight your words caused is suffusing. Many
> > thanks.
> >
> > Kabir says :  I moved about looking at the bad, the evil. Then, I saw
> > myself. And knew.
> >
> > On Jun 30, 7:38 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > "Should we exterminate the bad brains or continue on with this notion
> > > of every life is sacred and capable of redemption?"
> >
> > > Very nice, Slip.  this is the notion that moves us forward in western
> > > society.  The application of it gets murky.  It is easy enough for me
> > > to redeem all others in my heart by seeing them in their highest
> > > potential and wishing them the best in spirit.  Tougher to apply in
> > > cases like Gacy and Madoff as a society.  We heard the word evil being
> > > tossed about in many of the victim statements in the Madoff trial.
> > > The folks who were happy to get the larger than possible returns on
> > > their money but outraged at their losses when the scheme fell apart
> > > see Madoff as evil, but I wonder how much of the responsibility they
> > > carry for what occurred.  It does not eliminate the need for laws and
> > > guardrails for the investment industry, was the absence of them the
> > > responsibility of evil doers as well?  Evil in terms of those parts of
> > > us that need to possess and identify with external "powers" and
> > > "acquisitions" permeates our western world experience, setting us up
> > > for the fall.  It also distracts us from finding our worth in more
> > > internal and intrinsic aspects of life.  Defining evil can be slippery
> > > it seems...
> >
> > > On Jun 28, 11:50 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > Nice view point RR, and Welcome!  I don't know that it takes any
> > > > amount of effort to be good or bad depending on the nature of the
> > > > person in question.  Perhaps it would take a great deal of effort for
> > > > Gacy to be a good person but little effort for Mother Teresa,
> > > > conversely it would take a great effort for Mother Teresa to be a bad
> > > > person and little effort for Gacy.
> > > > I sometimes wonder if souls are pre-programed for good and evil.
>  Many
> > > > years ago when I taught school I noticed there were kids that were
> > > > simply incorrigible, lacking in the sense of goodness, simply the
> imps
> > > > in the world.  This world could be a paradise except for the spoil
> > > > that has been tossed in, the wrench that causes the leaks, the rotten
> > > > apple that ruins the bushel and simply the rotten people that corrupt
> > > > it all.
> > > > Should we exterminate the bad brains or continue on with this notion
> > > > of every life is sacred and capable of redemption?
> >
> > > > On Jun 28, 9:50 am, RacerRick <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > I believe that just as darkness is not necessarily the opposite of
> > > > > light as much as it is the absence of light, evil is the absence of
> > > > > good not the opposite. It takes a great deal of effort to be good,
> yet
> > > > > to be evil or bad can require no effort at all. I believe that true
> > > > > evilness is only fiction anyway. Good for movies and books. Even
> > > > > people like Gacy or Dahmer are just devoid of the morality we
> consider
> > > > > sacred. They placed no higher value on human life than on plant
> life.
> > > > > There was something wrong with their brains. Bad connections
> > > > > somewhere. That is no excuse for their behavior, they still need to
> be
> > > > > removed from society...and extinguished.
> >
> > > > > Cool topic!
> >
> > > > > Rick
> >
> > > > > On Jun 24, 4:51 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > A simple question, or is it?- Hide quoted text -
> >
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