I must admit that I got a tad angree just yesterday with a fellow Sikh, who was bemoaning his country men that go abroad to learn and then do not go back to India to help out. In effect blaming the conidtion of the poor of India on those who have left to better themselves. I asked him why do that instead of look towards the Indian goverment. Man those people are corrupt.
On 2 July, 05:39, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > " ... politicians are as corrupt as they have always been, se la vie." > > In India, many have been caught on camera and relentlessly brought to > public view, several are under investigation, few are defending > themselves in courts of law, many are under scanner for > disproportionate assets, quite some were dumped as liability by their > very political party, and some by the electorate at the hustings. > > The problem is mammoth, to say the least, and remains. But the change > is sure on. It 'll take a lot lot more, vigilance and time ... > > The satisfaction is that some of change is taking place at attitudinal > and cultural level. > > On Jul 2, 6:38 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > We cannot advance when we keep repeating the same pattern. How can we > > possibly improve on what is contained in the pattern as long as we > > adhere to the pattern?<<< Tinker > > > That is the whole point gruff was making, that we are not actually > > following a pattern that never changes but the changes are subtle in > > nature and hardly recognizable, unless of course you can see the > > changes in society over the past thousand or more years. We are > > making the changes, that is why you have a black President of the > > United States, something that would not have been possible a mere 50 > > years ago. Women are making a dent in the gender gap and unfortunately > > politicians are as corrupt as they have always been, se la vie. > > > On Jul 1, 6:35 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > "I can grant certain psychic/psychological/spiritual patterns that we > > > repeat *until we learn better* but I see advancement in that as well." > > > > We cannot advance when we keep repeating the same pattern. How can we > > > possibly improve on what is contained in the pattern as long as we > > > adhere to the pattern? The pattern IS "be the change you want to see" > > > and it doesn't work after thousands of years being practiced by the > > > majority of mankind. > > > To change the pattern, which basically turns the consciousness inward > > > to our One-ness, we need to bring our One-ness out to a 'common' > > > consciousness. > > > > peace & Love > > > > On Jul 1, 2:22 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > So am I right in assuming you don't see any progress toward becoming > > > > more civilized over our span? That we are just repeating old patterns > > > > well spoken about in literature and art over and over? > > > > > I can grant certain psychic/psychological/spiritual patterns that we > > > > repeat until we learn better but I see advancement in that as well. > > > > We're like a snake biting our own tail when it comes to behavior > > > > patterns but that snake gets longer and fatter each cycle round. I > > > > see that growth as progress as in moving forward. That snake doesn't > > > > just run around itself at one place, it moves in 360 degrees from > > > > where we first saw it. But we are getting better at handling this > > > > amazing adventure of becoming more human (it seems to me) in spite of > > > > this 'veneer of civilization' we hold so gingerly because on another > > > > level we know a lot of it is a pretense, a denial. It amazes me > > > > sometimes the number of times I've said, oh yeah, I can do that > > > > without a clue. > > > > > On Jul 1, 12:35 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > It was the OT. Adam and Eve. Abel and Cain. The Greek myths and > > > > > tragedies. All that has followed is just a variation. > > > > > > On Jul 1, 2:20 am, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Oh yes. I like to say that our veneer of civilization is thin and > > > > > > easily stripped away. > > > > > > > On Jun 30, 3:17 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > "The difference between you and me is one...bad...day." - The > > > > > > > Joker > > > > > > > When it comes to violating social norms, it takes a surprisingly > > > > > > > little > > > > > > > amount of trauma to begin to shift to "the other side". > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:57 PM, ornamentalmind > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > "We have met the enemy and he is us." - Lord of the Flies > > > > > > > Are you sure? I thought it was Walt Kelley's Pogo who nomed that > > > > > > plume.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
