I agree. You can read European history and understand how Nazi Germany erupted. etc. You can also reflect how individuals are free but trapped in their personal history, as well. It may take a lifetime to unwind the spool- then cut.
On Jul 3, 3:16 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't believe there is anything that is not forgiveable. But > forgiveness does not necessarily mean that all is as before. I can > forgive someone a trespass but never want to have them in my life > again. > > On Jul 3, 12:08 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > If it's accepted. But there is also the issue of pride involved here- > > apologies do not have to be accepted. It depends on the damage. I am > > not talking about false pride- I am talking about who you are and what > > you stand for and what you consider to be unforgiveable. Accept the > > variety of human nature. Move on. > > > On Jul 3, 11:51 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > When I consciously use apology with full humility, it is like an > > > antidote. > > > > On Jul 3, 7:03 am, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Apology is also about finessing a situation, but its main purpose is > > > > redemption and easing guilt. > > > > > On Jul 3, 2:09 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:44 AM, > > > > > > [email protected]<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Is aplogy about redemption, or the soothing of the guilt? > > > > > > Both. > > > > > > dj > > > > > > > On 3 July, 03:10, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Since the topic appears to be winding down and I don’t believe I’ve > > > > > >> chimed in yet, decades ago I learned that true redemption would > > > > > >> include things like replacing something I have broken owned by > > > > > >> another > > > > > >> if possible and similar ‘making whole’ the apparent ‘other’. In > > > > > >> some > > > > > >> cases, this isn’t possible. Those times I’ve found that the simple > > > > > >> words “I’m sorry.”, while not quite full redemption in such cases, > > > > > >> do > > > > > >> help the situation and pacify my psyche. > > > > > > >> On Jul 2, 4:26 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> > Yes- or to retreat from the world, if possible. I have no > > > > > >> > trouble with > > > > > >> > ordinary people- I have troubles with history and headlines. I've > > > > > >> > never liked the mechanics of cliques. The home is a haven- fill > > > > > >> > it > > > > > >> > with music and books. > > > > > > >> > On Jul 1, 7:36 am, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > I hesitate to say this, because at the moment I don't exactly > > > > > >> > > live > > > > > >> > > it. But if the world is filled with evil/harm, and you think > > > > > >> > > it's a > > > > > >> > > bad thing, isn't the only way to have integrity is to live > > > > > >> > > your life > > > > > >> > > the way you believe the world should be? > > > > > > >> > > On Jun 30, 5:01 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > Some acts are beyond forgiveness. I think the problem is > > > > > >> > > > that we have > > > > > >> > > > this hope that the world/people are good when in fact we > > > > > >> > > > live in world > > > > > >> > > > that contains great amounts of evil/harm. It is not wise to > > > > > >> > > > be naive. > > > > > > >> > > > On Jun 30, 10:42 am, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > I'm with Vam on this one. Sincere apology is very > > > > > >> > > > > important to me. It > > > > > >> > > > > is a way to keep myself honest. I feel that I need to > > > > > >> > > > > apologize if > > > > > >> > > > > I've wronged someone. This makes me more aware of what I > > > > > >> > > > > do, and how > > > > > >> > > > > it effects other people. A sincere apology is a gateway to > > > > > >> > > > > change, > > > > > >> > > > > it's an admission of a wrong, which is the first step in > > > > > >> > > > > really > > > > > >> > > > > addressing a problem.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > >> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > >> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > >> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
