I think all of the above are correct in a given situation. The intent
is the determining factor.
It can be used by the sleazeball as well as the conscientious. Wrong
can be done with the intent of manipulating with the apology. Not only
would the sleaze gain from the wrong, they can set up for more taking
advantage with their 'insincere' apology.

peace & Love

On Jul 3, 3:44 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Is aplogy about redemption, or the soothing of the guilt?
>
> On 3 July, 03:10, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Since the topic appears to be winding down and I don’t believe I’ve
> > chimed in yet, decades ago I learned that true redemption would
> > include things like replacing something I have broken owned by another
> > if possible and similar ‘making whole’ the apparent ‘other’. In some
> > cases, this isn’t possible. Those times I’ve found that the simple
> > words “I’m sorry.”, while not quite full redemption in such cases, do
> > help the situation and pacify my psyche.
>
> > On Jul 2, 4:26 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Yes- or to retreat from the world, if possible. I have no trouble with
> > > ordinary people- I have troubles with history and headlines. I've
> > > never liked the mechanics of cliques. The home is a haven- fill it
> > > with music and books.
>
> > > On Jul 1, 7:36 am, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I hesitate to say this, because at the moment I don't exactly live
> > > > it. But if the world is filled with evil/harm, and you think it's a
> > > > bad thing, isn't the only way to have integrity is to live your life
> > > > the way you believe the world should be?
>
> > > > On Jun 30, 5:01 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Some acts are beyond forgiveness. I think the problem is that we have
> > > > > this hope that the world/people are good when in fact we live in world
> > > > > that contains great amounts of evil/harm. It is not wise to be naive.
>
> > > > > On Jun 30, 10:42 am, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I'm with Vam on this one. Sincere apology is very important to me. 
> > > > > > It
> > > > > > is a way to keep myself honest. I feel that I need to apologize if
> > > > > > I've wronged someone. This makes me more aware of what I do, and how
> > > > > > it effects other people. A sincere apology is a gateway to change,
> > > > > > it's an admission of a wrong, which is the first step in really
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