There goes that point of view again.
I see us as One starting out, and the accomplished reality as going
away from that One.
The potential is to change the direction.

peace & love

On Jul 4, 2:11 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
> We are One is potential.  I'm talking about accomplished reality.
>
> On Jul 3, 1:24 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > What about the not so stark reality that we are One?
>
> > peace & Love
>
> > On Jul 3, 3:19 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Nothing wrong with a little co-dependence now and then.  It's like a
> > > respite from the stark reality that we are transversing this
> > > existence, from beginning to end and beyond, totally and completely
> > > alone.
>
> > > On Jul 3, 12:21 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Exactly. This is the perfect teeter-totter of co-dependence.
>
> > > > On Jul 3, 2:00 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I think all of the above are correct in a given situation. The intent
> > > > > is the determining factor.
> > > > > It can be used by the sleazeball as well as the conscientious. Wrong
> > > > > can be done with the intent of manipulating with the apology. Not only
> > > > > would the sleaze gain from the wrong, they can set up for more taking
> > > > > advantage with their 'insincere' apology.
>
> > > > > peace & Love
>
> > > > > On Jul 3, 3:44 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > Is aplogy about redemption, or the soothing of the guilt?
>
> > > > > > On 3 July, 03:10, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Since the topic appears to be winding down and I don’t believe 
> > > > > > > I’ve
> > > > > > > chimed in yet, decades ago I learned that true redemption would
> > > > > > > include things like replacing something I have broken owned by 
> > > > > > > another
> > > > > > > if possible and similar ‘making whole’ the apparent ‘other’. In 
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > cases, this isn’t possible. Those times I’ve found that the simple
> > > > > > > words “I’m sorry.”, while not quite full redemption in such 
> > > > > > > cases, do
> > > > > > > help the situation and pacify my psyche.
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 2, 4:26 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Yes- or to retreat from the world, if possible. I have no 
> > > > > > > > trouble with
> > > > > > > > ordinary people- I have troubles with history and headlines. 
> > > > > > > > I've
> > > > > > > > never liked the mechanics of cliques. The home is a haven- fill 
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > with music and books.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 1, 7:36 am, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > I hesitate to say this, because at the moment I don't exactly 
> > > > > > > > > live
> > > > > > > > > it. But if the world is filled with evil/harm, and you think 
> > > > > > > > > it's a
> > > > > > > > > bad thing, isn't the only way to have integrity is to live 
> > > > > > > > > your life
> > > > > > > > > the way you believe the world should be?
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jun 30, 5:01 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Some acts are beyond forgiveness. I think the problem is 
> > > > > > > > > > that we have
> > > > > > > > > > this hope that the world/people are good when in fact we 
> > > > > > > > > > live in world
> > > > > > > > > > that contains great amounts of evil/harm. It is not wise to 
> > > > > > > > > > be naive.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jun 30, 10:42 am, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm with Vam on this one. Sincere apology is very 
> > > > > > > > > > > important to me. It
> > > > > > > > > > > is a way to keep myself honest. I feel that I need to 
> > > > > > > > > > > apologize if
> > > > > > > > > > > I've wronged someone. This makes me more aware of what I 
> > > > > > > > > > > do, and how
> > > > > > > > > > > it effects other people. A sincere apology is a gateway 
> > > > > > > > > > > to change,
> > > > > > > > > > > it's an admission of a wrong, which is the first step in 
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