Also, Gene Kelly was terrific.
On Jul 11, 11:22�am, puppy <[email protected]> wrote:
> if you can produce evidence of another artist that issued such
> extraordinary talent preceding that of Jackson" � I can name that
> talent and it is Fred Astaire, a extraordinary talented performer.
> His ten movies, during the 1930s, with Ginger Rogers are the evidence.
> � Micheal Jackson was one of the first exceptional dance innovator,
> choreographer. �And had a wonderful stage presence. �I wasn't a fan
> but I recognize why he became an idol.
>
> On Jul 8, 5:51�am, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Rather than derailing Molly's thread on beauty, here's a new one continuing
> > my discussion with Slip on Michael Jackson and art. Of course, anyone else
> > is welcome to contribute.
>
> > 2009/7/8 Slip Disc <[email protected]>
>
> > > Ian really, the Caravaggio comparison is pertinent but only in the
> > > context of that era and Jackson in this era. �Equally they crossed the
> > > line, creating a frenzy of mind boggling spectacle.
>
> > Each to their own. If crotch-grabbing/thrusting is your bag, then more power
> > to you! If you think that the moonwalk was art -- rather than a fun/cheesy
> > gimmick -- then that's okay too.
>
> > I found nothing Jackson produced to be "mind-bloggling". He was labelled the
> > "King of Pop", but pop -- by its very nature -- is asinine, disposable, and
> > commercial... with due exception given to the genres of indie pop and C86.
> > See:
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_pop
>
> > Of course
>
> > > if you can produce evidence of another artist that issued such
> > > extraordinary talent preceding that of Jackson, I, as well as others,
> > > would concede to your view.
>
> > I can only assume this is a joke -- often hard to tell if we're not
> > face-to-face -- or you have had very limited exposure to music. I am happy
> > to talk about music and could offer up examples for longer than you'd likely
> > care to hear them. However, for the purposes of this discussion, I'll give
> > you a single, and I think comparable example, of a male solo writer and
> > performer: David Bowie.
>
> > > I personally have no interest, never had,
> > > in the Jackson attraction. �I am only motivated by your lack of
> > > recognition of the innovation,
>
> > Innovation is a serious word to throw around in music; I suggest you proceed
> > cautiously with the examples I am looking forward to you offering up. I'd be
> > particularly cautious when referring to Michael Jackson's contributions,
> > however, because, as I am sure you know, he did very little himself... thus
> > any credit for innovation will be, at the very best, diluted.
>
> > > Art is something of a misnomer
> > > in that people will and are paying thousands of dollars for
> > > contemporary "Graffiti" art, which for me as an artist styled in
> > > Renaissance period art view as pure "garbage". �So in that sense, your
> > > view of Micheal Jackson as less than an art form is reflective of your
> > > lack of understanding what "art" is all about.
>
> > Mend your tone a little, Slip.
>
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