For those who don’t know R. D., here are a couple of good resources: http://www.oikos.org/ronen.htm ( about the man )
http://www.oikos.org/knotpageen.htm (the book “Knots”, one of my favorite set of knots) On Jul 12, 12:46 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > You have moderators- moderate or bounce. Read R.D. Laing. > > On Jul 12, 2:29 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > That all sounds good, but I wasn't asking so much for a structure for > > internet groups for the mentally ill, as I was asking that we consider > > how, in general, we best deal with group members who display the signs > > of mental illness and contribute little or disrupt the group dynamic. > > For example, in this group, we have seen several members come and go > > who were unable to converse but ready to vehemently argue, bully, > > flame, etc. The signs of mental illness are as widely variable as the > > illnesses - the narcissist can only discuss topics as they relate to > > them and expect the group to conform to their needs, and often brings > > the focus of the threads back to them. The schizophrenic presents > > themselves with irregularity and incongruence, often angry. Angry too > > is the boarder line personality who can also be addicted to rage and > > jumps on the flaming bandwagon at every chance, but can occasionally > > contribute something specifically valid. > > > The list goes on and on. What I am wondering is how, as users of > > internet groups, we identify these folks and stop them from making the > > forum unusable by those looking for reasonable discourse, and safety > > from not irrational venting? At what point does our compassion allow > > us to feel every persons worth, yet know that some are better off in > > other venues? > > > On Jul 12, 1:42 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > There should be an established level for each group within, let's say, > > > five levels ranging from simple venting to crisis and/or mild to > > > anything goes. In less extreme areas of mental illness chat groups > > > provide a sharing forum where the individual meets others allowing for > > > the individual to drop the isolation curtain while identifying with > > > others who have similar emotions and expressions. The extreme level > > > of course may be subject to chaotic activity but then again there is > > > the option of "one to one" communication between members of the chat > > > group. The in between levels will allow for an individual to find the > > > optimal level for the optimal experience. Each level should in some > > > way provide at all times someone trained in the field of mental > > > illness in order to identify and categorize what might be a crisis > > > level participant in a low level group which can ultimately exacerbate > > > the crisis as the individual increasingly feels that others don't > > > understand. > > > > On Jul 12, 12:06 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Before the widespread use of personal computers, suicide hotlines > > > > performed the community service of giving local community members > > > > suffering from mental illness an outlet for expression. All hotline > > > > workers are trained in various mental illness and how to best > > > > communicate with these callers, maintain call time limits, give local > > > > resources for further help if needed, and call the local authorities > > > > in case of an actual suicide consideration. Fact is, calls concerning > > > > suicide comprised an average of less than 5% of callers to suicide > > > > hotlines. The other 95% of the calls are from people with various > > > > mental illnesses, that were not in crisis but felt isolated from > > > > society and just need an avenue of expression. > > > > > The advent of online chatrooms brought relief to these hotlines as it > > > > provided an avenue for those not actually in crisis of contemplating > > > > suicide, to interact with others and express themselves. This > > > > alternative community of the online groups offers relief for families, > > > > communities and the individuals themselves by providing semi social > > > > environments for interaction. > > > > > At the same time, it requires legitimate online groups to take on the > > > > added responsibility of administering the groups to prevent trolling, > > > > flaming, spamming and other behavior disruptive to the group. This > > > > behavior can be juvenille, or the result of personality disorders of > > > > myriad varieties, i.e., those who typically call the crisis hotlines. > > > > > How far should an online group go in creating an environment of free > > > > self expression? What boundaries should be set for folks who might be > > > > better directed to a mental health chat room, where participants > > > > trained in the communication patterns of the mentally ill can respond > > > > effectively? The answers obviously depend on the goals and guidelines > > > > of the group, but in general, what do you think? > > > > >http://www.educause.edu/EDUCAUSE+Review/EDUCAUSEReviewMagazineVolume4... > > > > >http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/03/30/the_problems_wit... > > > > >http://www.nowpublic.com/people/adult-cyber-bullying-should-laws-prot...Hide > > > > quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
