Thanks! Yes- he's a keeper.
On Jul 12, 6:20 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> For those who don’t know R. D., here are a couple of good
> resources:http://www.oikos.org/ronen.htm
> ( about the man )
>
> http://www.oikos.org/knotpageen.htm
> (the book “Knots”, one of my favorite set of knots)
>
> On Jul 12, 12:46 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > You have moderators- moderate or bounce. Read R.D. Laing.
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> > On Jul 12, 2:29 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > That all sounds good, but I wasn't asking so much for a structure for
> > > internet groups for the mentally ill, as I was asking that we consider
> > > how, in general, we best deal with group members who display the signs
> > > of mental illness and contribute little or disrupt the group dynamic.
> > > For example, in this group, we have seen several members come and go
> > > who were unable to converse but ready to vehemently argue, bully,
> > > flame, etc. The signs of mental illness are as widely variable as the
> > > illnesses - the narcissist can only discuss topics as they relate to
> > > them and expect the group to conform to their needs, and often brings
> > > the focus of the threads back to them. The schizophrenic presents
> > > themselves with irregularity and incongruence, often angry. Angry too
> > > is the boarder line personality who can also be addicted to rage and
> > > jumps on the flaming bandwagon at every chance, but can occasionally
> > > contribute something specifically valid.
>
> > > The list goes on and on. What I am wondering is how, as users of
> > > internet groups, we identify these folks and stop them from making the
> > > forum unusable by those looking for reasonable discourse, and safety
> > > from not irrational venting? At what point does our compassion allow
> > > us to feel every persons worth, yet know that some are better off in
> > > other venues?
>
> > > On Jul 12, 1:42 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > There should be an established level for each group within, let's say,
> > > > five levels ranging from simple venting to crisis and/or mild to
> > > > anything goes. In less extreme areas of mental illness chat groups
> > > > provide a sharing forum where the individual meets others allowing for
> > > > the individual to drop the isolation curtain while identifying with
> > > > others who have similar emotions and expressions. The extreme level
> > > > of course may be subject to chaotic activity but then again there is
> > > > the option of "one to one" communication between members of the chat
> > > > group. The in between levels will allow for an individual to find the
> > > > optimal level for the optimal experience. Each level should in some
> > > > way provide at all times someone trained in the field of mental
> > > > illness in order to identify and categorize what might be a crisis
> > > > level participant in a low level group which can ultimately exacerbate
> > > > the crisis as the individual increasingly feels that others don't
> > > > understand.
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> > > > On Jul 12, 12:06 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > Before the widespread use of personal computers, suicide hotlines
> > > > > performed the community service of giving local community members
> > > > > suffering from mental illness an outlet for expression. All hotline
> > > > > workers are trained in various mental illness and how to best
> > > > > communicate with these callers, maintain call time limits, give local
> > > > > resources for further help if needed, and call the local authorities
> > > > > in case of an actual suicide consideration. Fact is, calls concerning
> > > > > suicide comprised an average of less than 5% of callers to suicide
> > > > > hotlines. The other 95% of the calls are from people with various
> > > > > mental illnesses, that were not in crisis but felt isolated from
> > > > > society and just need an avenue of expression.
>
> > > > > The advent of online chatrooms brought relief to these hotlines as it
> > > > > provided an avenue for those not actually in crisis of contemplating
> > > > > suicide, to interact with others and express themselves. This
> > > > > alternative community of the online groups offers relief for families,
> > > > > communities and the individuals themselves by providing semi social
> > > > > environments for interaction.
>
> > > > > At the same time, it requires legitimate online groups to take on the
> > > > > added responsibility of administering the groups to prevent trolling,
> > > > > flaming, spamming and other behavior disruptive to the group. This
> > > > > behavior can be juvenille, or the result of personality disorders of
> > > > > myriad varieties, i.e., those who typically call the crisis hotlines.
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> > > > > How far should an online group go in creating an environment of free
> > > > > self expression? What boundaries should be set for folks who might be
> > > > > better directed to a mental health chat room, where participants
> > > > > trained in the communication patterns of the mentally ill can respond
> > > > > effectively? The answers obviously depend on the goals and guidelines
> > > > > of the group, but in general, what do you think?
>
> > > > >http://www.educause.edu/EDUCAUSE+Review/EDUCAUSEReviewMagazineVolume4...
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> > > > >http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/03/30/the_problems_wit...
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> > > > >http://www.nowpublic.com/people/adult-cyber-bullying-should-laws-prot...quoted
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