Actually the best one I had was deep fried dill pickles, had it in a little restaurant in Bannak Mt at robbers roost. It was when my wife and I went to see my kids on vacation. It was different and it had a different taste. Would I have it again? not sure. Allan
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > He may just opt to join us in a fried Mars Bar. > > On Jul 27, 11:52 am, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote: > > Molly - US copyright law says that the act of fixing your expression > > in a tangible medium invokes copyright protection. Nothing more need > > be done for the author to own the copyright in the expression. Thus, > > posting a comment on Minds Eye results in the writer owning a > > copyright in the posted text. Of course, there is also fair use, about > > which I've written you earlier. I'm interested in what Google's > > counsel says about all this. Jim > > > > On Jul 27, 6:11 am, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Molly, > > > > > As far as I know, posting something to the group doesn't automatically > > > enshrine it in copyright law. In my experience, some other kind of > action > > > would usually be needed. I don't know this for sure with regards to the > > > Internet, however. Outside of my expertise. > > > > > As I've said, it's your responsibility to make the decision. > > > > > There may be a complication, however. Given that your blog is Google > > > Adsense-enabled and carries Amazon AWS advertising -- and hence you are > > > profiting from content you did not write -- I think Vam and Fran's talk > of > > > wanting to see some kind of return for their contributions may need > > > addressing, no? :) > > > > > Ian > > > > > 2009/7/27 Molly Brogan <[email protected]> > > > > > > For clarity, can you site us some copyright law that tells us clearly > > > > that as soon as we post something in this group (no matter what name > > > > we are posting under, and whether or not we have a legitimate profile > > > > to match it) we own a copyright to it without actually applying for > > > > copyright with the office of the country of our citizenship? This > > > > would certainly be of interest to me and go a long way in clarifying > > > > the concerns we are all voicing now. Last I checked, copyright was > > > > something you applied for and were awarded after (in the US) paying > > > > for the privilege. There is, on the internet, creative commons > > > > copyright, but as that is not in use here, it does not apply. > > > > > > Do you think that googles terms and conditions were referring to > > > > material that may actually have a copyright? This is probably the > > > > case, and reminds me that I should be listing the copyright info when > > > > I post things from my books in these groups. But it doesn't really > > > > matter anyway, because copyrights only come in handy if I can prove > in > > > > court that I obtained mine at a date prior to the publication of my > > > > material under someone else's name, in which case, I might be awarded > > > > damages if someone made money using my work as theirs. > > > > > > It is all only points of interest. Going forward, I will only use > the > > > > posts from Minds Eye from folks who have given permission, and as I > > > > said, this won't really change things much. Each post is accredited > to > > > > the author under their fictitious name or, if I can ascertain it, > > > > their given name on my blog. I do this because I believe that we are > > > > all adults and prefer to use adult names. I'm glad to clear things > up > > > > and hope for further clarification on the copyright issues. > > > > > > The issue of how far we need to go to control our words has indeed > > > > become an interesting topic. Neil's image of perusing the internet > > > > for info on Darwin to formulate a response to the Darwin thread is > > > > poignant. How many original ideas do we have? How deeply do other > > > > writers words effect us on levels that we don't recognize as our > words > > > > are coming out of us? In my opinion, it isn't the words, but the > > > > logos that moves between us as we are exchanging the words that > > > > expands our awareness. Therein is the true treasure. Can we really > > > > control that on the internet and why would we want to? I think the > > > > more we try to hold on to control in these ways, the smaller our > world > > > > becomes. There are lots of groups on the internet. This one is > great > > > > because of the level of exchange between members. The internet is > > > > great because it gives us immediate access to information and ideas. > > > > It expands our world - in direct proportion to how we allow. > > > > > > On Jul 27, 5:55 am, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Google's terms and conditions are clear: you may not reproduce > posts > > > > without > > > > > permission of the copyright holder (the author of the post). > Legally > > > > there > > > > > is no discussion to be had on this point; neither in public nor > private. > > > > > Philosophically, as Francis has alluded to, there's probably quite > a lot > > > > to > > > > > discuss. > > > > > > > Where there is a legal discussion is on what the moderators do > about the > > > > > fact that one of us has previously given Molly permission to > reproduce > > > > posts > > > > > made to Mind's Eye on her blog. The question is what we do about > this > > > > (given > > > > > that this permission was apparently not ours to give). This > discussion > > > > only > > > > > relates to the indemnity of the Moderators and has nothing to do > with the > > > > > actual group. Ultimately Molly may choose to carry on reproducing > posts > > > > on > > > > > her blog, but, in my opinion, the Moderators should not be > complicit in > > > > > this. > > > > > > > As a writer I value the protection of copyright laws, even if > others do > > > > not. > > > > > > > Ian- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- ( ) I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
