On one hand: "The view is not cynical or pessimistic but a view of the "reality of the world"
On the other: The thread basis is that people are "not" interested in reconciliation, "each of us" is not relevant. <<slip Seems contradictory to me, perhaps because I do not agree with your tread basis as a view of what people in general are not interested in and I certainly do not agree that each of us is not relevant. But I can understand how these premises lead to the viewpoint presented. "My post is not a view, it's real time reality." Each of us, in our view, chooses those parts of our experience on which to focus our attention. In my opinion, your version of reality is incomplete, and is missing many of the better aspects of life, a few that are noted in my previous post. Just to clarify - as I see it, the non dual viewpoint includes but is not limited to duality. That is to say, good and evil, or if your prefer, the good stuff and bad stuff in life are surely there. However, a non dual perspective does not include the emotional charge of good and evil - has a different value system and often assigns different meaning to the same events, based on a different set of beliefs. I know that to you, what you see in your viewpoint is your reality. The world, from my view, is very different, and I know that we have already agreed to disagree on this, my friend. On Jul 30, 7:42 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > On Jul 29, 7:39 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Reconciling the world. This is a very broad topic. Within it, you > > bring up myriad other topics to support a cynical and pessimistic > > view. I too have moments of feeling like this but, lucky for me, they > > are brief and a broadening of view is where I find relief. > > The view is not cynical or pessimistic but a view of the "reality of > the world". Nothing was mentioned that doesn't exist and all is > available in one form of news or another. >>Slip > > > > > I think that for each of us, reconciling the world is the life long > > learning of reconciling the tree of the knowledge of good and evil > > (duality) with the tree of life (non dual). This one, age old, > > change in perspective makes all the difference in reconciling the > > world. It can also take a lifetime to understand and accomplish. > > Sounds like personal experience being generalized for the global > community. The thread basis is that people are "not" interested in > reconciliation, "each of us" is not relevant. <<slip > > The > > > gift of duality< > > Duality, good and evil is a "gift"? A gift from whom? > How is evil a gift? So we must have pain to understand joy?<<slip > > You use "we" and "us" quite often but I don't see the rest of the > world thinking on the same lines. Everyone does not understand what > you and I do. <<slip > > I sure there are those who are exerting a great deal of effort but > that is nothing new, the religious community has been for thousands of > years attempting to get people to reconcile, love one another, "do > unto others as....etc" , it's not working, it's dreamland fantasy > world. Fact is, it's getting worse because most see the viability of > the alternative. My post is not a view, it's real time reality. > <<Slip > > > > > On Jul 26, 6:22 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Are we losing the ability to reconcile in the world? Have we slipped > > > so far from the understanding of brotherhood, of forgiveness that we > > > have simply become a world of hatred and revenge. We are literally > > > mortified by the specter of terrorism that is plaguing the world. The > > > mindset of terrorism is anchored in the inability to allow forgiveness > > > to override anger and instead caters to hatred, anger and violence > > > towards those deemed the wrongdoers without regard for the harm > > > imposed upon the innocent bystanders. > > > Aside from that our culture seems entrenched in the business of > > > revenge, we rather employ legal means to inflict suffering upon those > > > who we think have done us wrong before we would sit down directly and > > > discuss the problems. Politics seems to be leaning more toward > > > instilling anger and fears among us which leads to a polarization of > > > society while most media seem devoted to divisive and anger driven > > > reporting with a general attitude of who is to blame. > > > Can we ever stop sending messages attached to missiles, bombs and > > > bullets? Our attempts to establish peaceful means of resolution have > > > failed miserably because there is never a general consensus on any > > > issue. We sanction and punish to no end in order to force change but > > > to no avail. People are at war in every quadrant of the planet while > > > new agitations are festering in the background waiting to emerge as > > > full scale skirmishes. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
