And some of us are grey, myself I have a slightly yellow tinge!
On 30 July, 11:34, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
> " While we have seen the enemy and it IS us, at the same time, we ARE
> light."
>
> That's optimistic enough, OM ! We are dark, too.
>
> On Jul 29, 10:57 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > Of course, reality is neither optimism nor being cynical….however, in
> > a way, one must know both poles well in order to clearly see things as
> > they are…the middle way.
> > While we have seen the enemy and it IS us, at the same time, we ARE
> > light.
>
> > On Jul 29, 5:39 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > Reconciling the world. This is a very broad topic. Within it, you
> > > bring up myriad other topics to support a cynical and pessimistic
> > > view. I too have moments of feeling like this but, lucky for me, they
> > > are brief and a broadening of view is where I find relief.
>
> > > I think that for each of us, reconciling the world is the life long
> > > learning of reconciling the tree of the knowledge of good and evil
> > > (duality) with the tree of life (non dual). This one, age old,
> > > change in perspective makes all the difference in reconciling the
> > > world. It can also take a lifetime to understand and accomplish. The
> > > gift of duality is given so that we can learn from a very early age to
> > > give meaning and value to our lives. The joy of discovering what is
> > > good and overcoming what is not is called, for most of us, growing
> > > up. Reaching the age of maturity and understanding true unity
> > > consciousness comes at various ages, sometimes various lifetimes.
> > > Somehow, when we no longer see the world in terms of good and evil, we
> > > look back on others like children at play and wonder at the joy and
> > > pain of their play. But there is not much time for that, because the
> > > non dual opens worlds within worlds for us again, all inviting us into
> > > the becoming.
>
> > > On a social level, or how we live with others, there is again a marked
> > > difference between the dual and non dual. Those with a duality
> > > perspective tend to see resources as limited, and fear not having
> > > their share. The world is full of it. Fear and domination are
> > > central to it. I found this brief explanation
> > > here:http://www.cnvc.org/en/what-nvc/articles-writings/anger-and-dominatio...
>
> > > The Powers That Be and Engaging the Powers, theologian Walter Wink
> > > talks about domination systems being ones in which a few people
> > > control [many] to their own advantage. In domination systems you have
> > > to train people to think in ways that support the system, so they fit
> > > the system.
>
> > > Domination systems require:
> > > 1. Suppression of self
> > > 2. Moralistic judgments
> > > 3. Amtssprache (This expression was used by Nazi officials to
> > > describe a bureaucratic language that denies choice, with words like:
> > > “should,” “have to,” “ought.”)
> > > 4. The crucial concept of deserve
> > > Now anger is the result, it’s a fire alarm that tells us we are
> > > thinking in a way that supports domination systems; you are thinking
> > > in a way that contributes to the oppressive world order and you are
> > > part of it.
>
> > > If we are truly interested in reconciliation, we begin with ourselves
> > > and then move onto the bigger world, knowing that there is enough for
> > > everyone. There are terrific efforts in unity going on all around us
> > > that can tame our cynicism and present a good case for optimism:
>
> > > The Center for NonViolent Communicationhttp://www.cnvc.org/ is an
> > > enormous global effort
>
> > > The Buckminster Fuller Institutehttp://www.bfi.org/ is based on
> > > design science but is also founded on creative problems solving,
> > > social living strategies and global communication
>
> > > The Future by Design Community Framework
> > > :http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/custom/portlets/recordDetails/de...
>
> > > Anyone else know of some good ones?
>
> > > On Jul 26, 6:22 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Are we losing the ability to reconcile in the world? Have we slipped
> > > > so far from the understanding of brotherhood, of forgiveness that we
> > > > have simply become a world of hatred and revenge. We are literally
> > > > mortified by the specter of terrorism that is plaguing the world. The
> > > > mindset of terrorism is anchored in the inability to allow forgiveness
> > > > to override anger and instead caters to hatred, anger and violence
> > > > towards those deemed the wrongdoers without regard for the harm
> > > > imposed upon the innocent bystanders.
> > > > Aside from that our culture seems entrenched in the business of
> > > > revenge, we rather employ legal means to inflict suffering upon those
> > > > who we think have done us wrong before we would sit down directly and
> > > > discuss the problems. Politics seems to be leaning more toward
> > > > instilling anger and fears among us which leads to a polarization of
> > > > society while most media seem devoted to divisive and anger driven
> > > > reporting with a general attitude of who is to blame.
> > > > Can we ever stop sending messages attached to missiles, bombs and
> > > > bullets? Our attempts to establish peaceful means of resolution have
> > > > failed miserably because there is never a general consensus on any
> > > > issue. We sanction and punish to no end in order to force change but
> > > > to no avail. People are at war in every quadrant of the planet while
> > > > new agitations are festering in the background waiting to emerge as
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