Certainly once one has had an experience, they learn to live with the effect of such into their daily lives, whether it is spiritual or physical in nature. I was referring to a "process" to pursue or entice a spiritual experience. I turned off any further advancement in spiritual growth after my third OBE (or whatever). I was satisfied that I had enjoyed the ultimate experience, and have been patiently waited for my physical death ever since, as I realize "living" in this state permanently is not possible as a human. This may sound like harsh reasoning, but hey, thats the way it is!
On Aug 5, 9:06 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > We may differ on this point, as I believe it is possible to include > the daily reality, all parts of experience into one's state of > consciousness. Experiences may begin to come to us with eyes closed > in contemplation, but somehow we need to integrate them into our daily > life and flow of experience. I surprised someone the first time I > mentioned that I do not meditate anymore, that I am in a constant > state of meditation. Most people have the idea that these states can > only be reached by shutting out activity and stimuli. For me, it was > important to maintain these states while walking around, relating to > people, working, and all the things I do on a daily basis. My life > took off after I realized this. > > On Aug 5, 6:51 am, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I presume there are physical methods of removing the daily reality of > > human life from ones immediate focus, and I applaud those who try to > > find the purity of spirit, whatever method they use. My experiences > > came to me while lying in bed with eyes closed, with no real goal in > > mind. In fact, I was very young when I started to have some quite > > bizarre experiences. Fortunately, I found them intriguing and put out > > the welcome mat. Little did I know what was to follow... > > > On Aug 5, 4:40 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I think that the inspiration that Feynman is referring to is analogous > > > to inspiration as Husserl saw it, that comes as we reduce our > > > experience from all of our social constructs and paradigms to a moment > > > of being that is open and clear for an idea that synthesizes thoughts > > > in unique arrangements. Letting go of all that can take effort, until > > > it becomes second nature. I like the way that Feynman realizes that > > > sometimes inspiration comes as he is pushing against convention. He > > > makes a pushing motion with his hand and has a full face response of > > > joy in remembering the moment of inspiration. He has fun with it, > > > much to be admired there. > > > > It seems to me that inspired artists and scientists find that way to, > > > as Feynman describes, get past the details and penetrate the mystery. > > > Anyone can get to this point. From my view, this is where we open > > > ourselves to inspiration. > > > > On Aug 4, 10:57 am, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > In regards to Point #2 I would say that it is more of a desire for > > > > inspiration, than a process of acheiving it, although some suggest > > > > meditation helps and I can't disagree. Although I can only speak from > > > > my own experiences, spiritual inspiriation must be welcomed with open > > > > arms, and no amount of external searching will provide the answers. > > > > > When I was a child we had no TV, computer or other external stimulii, > > > > so idle time was a constant companion. With today's hectic schedules, > > > > idle contemplation is going the way of the dinosaur and this is very > > > > unfortunate. In my opinion, quiet times with eyes closed and the > > > > Welcome Mat out, is the only opportunity one will have to experience > > > > "spiritual enlightenment", or whatever one wants to call it. My > > > > feeling is that many people turn away from the funny little "pullings" > > > > that they feel, and this, combined with more stimulii and less > > > > opportunity, is shutting the door for many to experience spiritual > > > > enlightenment. > > > > > On Aug 4, 10:31 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > If you have the time to watch all four of the Richard Feynman videos > > > > > here, 4 parts each about ten minutes, I would encourage you to do it. > > > > > If not, at least watch the last of the four, here is the link to > > > > > it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvqwm6RbxcQ&feature=related > > > > > > It is difficult to find one or two things to discuss here, because > > > > > Feynman, the Nobel prize winning physicist is so fascinating and > > > > > enthusiastic about life and discovery. But in this fourth video, he > > > > > brings up two important points, from my view: > > > > > > 1. No matter who we are, if we can get to a level in discussion where > > > > > we are penetrating the mystery in life, we will be sharing the deepest > > > > > intimacy possible between people. > > > > > > 2. Finding that moment of inspiration for ourselves, where the > > > > > answers come to us and we understand, is so important. Can we figure > > > > > out that process, and share it? > > > > > > What do YOU think?- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
