Yes, I'm still here! ;-]
On Aug 5, 11:40 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> There is much to be said about embracing death and life
> simultaneously. Some say it is how we step off the karmic wheel...
>
> On Aug 5, 9:30 am, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote:
>
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>
> > Certainly once one has had an experience, they learn to live with the
> > effect of such into their daily lives, whether it is spiritual or
> > physical in nature. I was referring to a "process" to pursue or entice
> > a spiritual experience. I turned off any further advancement in
> > spiritual growth after my third OBE (or whatever). I was satisfied
> > that I had enjoyed the ultimate experience, and have been patiently
> > waited for my physical death ever since, as I realize "living" in this
> > state permanently is not possible as a human. This may sound like
> > harsh reasoning, but hey, thats the way it is!
>
> > On Aug 5, 9:06 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > We may differ on this point, as I believe it is possible to include
> > > the daily reality, all parts of experience into one's state of
> > > consciousness. Experiences may begin to come to us with eyes closed
> > > in contemplation, but somehow we need to integrate them into our daily
> > > life and flow of experience. I surprised someone the first time I
> > > mentioned that I do not meditate anymore, that I am in a constant
> > > state of meditation. Most people have the idea that these states can
> > > only be reached by shutting out activity and stimuli. For me, it was
> > > important to maintain these states while walking around, relating to
> > > people, working, and all the things I do on a daily basis. My life
> > > took off after I realized this.
>
> > > On Aug 5, 6:51 am, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I presume there are physical methods of removing the daily reality of
> > > > human life from ones immediate focus, and I applaud those who try to
> > > > find the purity of spirit, whatever method they use. My experiences
> > > > came to me while lying in bed with eyes closed, with no real goal in
> > > > mind. In fact, I was very young when I started to have some quite
> > > > bizarre experiences. Fortunately, I found them intriguing and put out
> > > > the welcome mat. Little did I know what was to follow...
>
> > > > On Aug 5, 4:40 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I think that the inspiration that Feynman is referring to is analogous
> > > > > to inspiration as Husserl saw it, that comes as we reduce our
> > > > > experience from all of our social constructs and paradigms to a moment
> > > > > of being that is open and clear for an idea that synthesizes thoughts
> > > > > in unique arrangements. Letting go of all that can take effort, until
> > > > > it becomes second nature. I like the way that Feynman realizes that
> > > > > sometimes inspiration comes as he is pushing against convention. He
> > > > > makes a pushing motion with his hand and has a full face response of
> > > > > joy in remembering the moment of inspiration. He has fun with it,
> > > > > much to be admired there.
>
> > > > > It seems to me that inspired artists and scientists find that way to,
> > > > > as Feynman describes, get past the details and penetrate the mystery.
> > > > > Anyone can get to this point. From my view, this is where we open
> > > > > ourselves to inspiration.
>
> > > > > On Aug 4, 10:57 am, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > In regards to Point #2 I would say that it is more of a desire for
> > > > > > inspiration, than a process of acheiving it, although some suggest
> > > > > > meditation helps and I can't disagree. Although I can only speak
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > my own experiences, spiritual inspiriation must be welcomed with
> > > > > > open
> > > > > > arms, and no amount of external searching will provide the answers.
>
> > > > > > When I was a child we had no TV, computer or other external
> > > > > > stimulii,
> > > > > > so idle time was a constant companion. With today's hectic
> > > > > > schedules,
> > > > > > idle contemplation is going the way of the dinosaur and this is very
> > > > > > unfortunate. In my opinion, quiet times with eyes closed and the
> > > > > > Welcome Mat out, is the only opportunity one will have to experience
> > > > > > "spiritual enlightenment", or whatever one wants to call it. My
> > > > > > feeling is that many people turn away from the funny little
> > > > > > "pullings"
> > > > > > that they feel, and this, combined with more stimulii and less
> > > > > > opportunity, is shutting the door for many to experience spiritual
> > > > > > enlightenment.
>
> > > > > > On Aug 4, 10:31 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > If you have the time to watch all four of the Richard Feynman
> > > > > > > videos
> > > > > > > here, 4 parts each about ten minutes, I would encourage you to do
> > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > If not, at least watch the last of the four, here is the link to
> > > > > > > it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvqwm6RbxcQ&feature=related
>
> > > > > > > It is difficult to find one or two things to discuss here, because
> > > > > > > Feynman, the Nobel prize winning physicist is so fascinating and
> > > > > > > enthusiastic about life and discovery. But in this fourth video,
> > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > brings up two important points, from my view:
>
> > > > > > > 1. No matter who we are, if we can get to a level in discussion
> > > > > > > where
> > > > > > > we are penetrating the mystery in life, we will be sharing the
> > > > > > > deepest
> > > > > > > intimacy possible between people.
>
> > > > > > > 2. Finding that moment of inspiration for ourselves, where the
> > > > > > > answers come to us and we understand, is so important. Can we
> > > > > > > figure
> > > > > > > out that process, and share it?
>
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