For me, at this time, death is integral to life in ways that I am not
sure that I can articulate right now.  After reading The Years of Rice
and Salt, it occurred to me that the simple daily deconstruction in my
experience may just be the conflation of bardo and life.  Seen in this
way, meaning changes. The meaning of what is happening during those
times when things are seemingly falling apart. This is a new viewpoint
for me and I am not sure that I have witnessed enough to articulate.
And I am not sure that a postponed eventual and final departure from
this body would make any difference to that experience.  Like I say, I
should give it some more thought.

On Aug 6, 4:27 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just a spontaneous thought; Is living forever really to be preferred
> to living ever more deeply - right now?
>
> Francis
>
> On 6 Aug., 22:23, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > This is a wonderful topic, Jim, and I need to give it some thought.
> > Justin mentioned in a recent argumentative post that "this was the
> > kind of stuff that caused him to look forward to death" (sorry for the
> > paraphrase, Justin.)  I read that and could feel it through every part
> > of my being.  As much as I love life right now, I am not sure it is
> > enough for me, the way the world is now.  My hope is, that as I
> > change, so will the world and there will be a point of recognition
> > that will change that for me.
>
> > Let me think about this some more.  If I could only stop thinking
> > about the Highlander. Thanks alot, Francis!
>
> > On Aug 6, 4:01 pm, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Many of the recent threads - evolution, non-medical healing, are we in
> > > control, Feynman's mysteries, etc. - seem to dance around on the
> > > wavecrest of scientific discoveries. It strikes me that, given the
> > > major scientific advances in recent decades and the increasing speed
> > > of scientific progress, in the foreseeable future - 100 years maybe -
> > > humans may be able to elect to live without aging. We might well be
> > > able to maintain our bodies at age 30 or 40 or whatever as long as we
> > > like. In other words, we might be able to choose to live forever.
> > >      If we accept that as a possibility, I wonder what sort of
> > > philosophical issues it raises. How might our view of life and death
> > > be changed, if at all? How would our economies adapt? Would people
> > > still marry for life? Would it change communities? Would our
> > > objectives - happy life, great wealth, friendships, learning, travel
> > > etc. - change, and if so how? And how would we settle such issues?
> > >     Anyone care to pursue this thread?   Jim
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