I am glad that you have added another dimension, another facet to this. However, I hope you will expound on "sensible attitudes towards integration", "dumb cultural relativism" and the "wrong model". Yes it is a very old model but could you indulge us by expanding the peripheral presentation?
On Aug 6, 6:07 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > My point about 'there goes the neighbourhood' is that this is more > likely to be to do with criminal scum and antisocial attitudes than > race. This said, we don't engage in sensible attitudes towards > integration and have allowed dumb cultural relativism to cloud good > sense and have encouraged economic migration on the wrong model to > suppress needs to train our own people and keep basic work wages down > - this is a very old model. > > On 6 Aug, 15:28, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > SD, > > > To answer this question directly, It's economic. The style of the > > particular slum is ethnic, and the ability to unslum it is > > environmental. > > > Being safe is based on specific realities, painting anything with a > > broad brush can compromise that. I watch my back when driving through > > a trailer park town in Oklahoma, I'd feel perfectly save in GW Bush's > > Dallas neighborhood, same ethnicity, different economics. > > > Sorry to bring up specific colors, but I really don't see anyway to > > study the issue other than try to compare real life situations, where > > people do have specific colors and identities. > > > On Aug 6, 6:39 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Racism is an important issue although I think it is a secondary > > > consideration when examining social behavior in relation to > > > ethnicity. Racism can be a result of ethnic behavioral patterns. > > > How can people not be racist towards any ethnic group that displays > > > negative behaviors that are detrimental to themselves and society. > > > As rigsy points out, much of it has to do with experience. When you > > > see good neighborhoods turn ugly consistently and based solely > > > upon the introduction of a specific ethnic group, it is easily > > > understood that "avoidance of that group", which translates to racism, > > > makes sense. I can drive across town, take a look around and > > > instantly know that I wouldn't live there. Is it economic, > > > environment or ethnic? > > > > On Aug 6, 6:07 am, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Yep, although they didn't have the added visual stigma of colour to > > > > overcome. It's hard to envision a day when racism doesn't exist, > > > > especially until it is stopped being ingrained in children. > > > > > On Aug 6, 6:38 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > You don't hear the Irish bellyaching about being indigent servants for > > > > > seven years, bought up to fight the Yankee Civil War, the rotten > > > > > salary as they built our cities. They took another route- politics and > > > > > law enforcement. > > > > > > On Aug 6, 5:34 am, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > In the US, African Americans make up ~13% of the overall population, > > > > > > yet make up ~44% of the inmates in federal prisons. While this > > > > > > statistic may seem revealing, the extenuating social and economic > > > > > > circumstances that exist certainly clouds the issue. > > > > > > > Nobody alive today can be blamed for slavery, yet we still hear > > > > > > complaints about it in the news. Although the history of blacks in > > > > > > America must be taken into consideration, it seems like there must > > > > > > be > > > > > > an internal effort to change this statistic. One of the biggest > > > > > > voices > > > > > > against the life style of the black man comes from Bill Cosby. It > > > > > > would be shocking to listen to him if he was white, and he would > > > > > > certainly be labelled a racist if he wasn't black himself. He is > > > > > > right, it is time to move on. > > > > > > > In order for blacks to climb out of the social stigma that surrounds > > > > > > them, grass roots efforts have to be made to change the attitude of > > > > > > children so that they do not grow up to be in a position where > > > > > > nobody > > > > > > wants to give them a job. Stop blaming the past and make an internal > > > > > > effort to change the perception of others. I feel sorry for the > > > > > > situation that they are in, and realize it will take a major effort > > > > > > on > > > > > > their part to change this. I hope for the sake of everyone that they > > > > > > succeed.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
