Nah, you're pretty much dead-on Deri. After a life of relatively carefree existence I've been hit up with a substantial amount of unwanted responsibility in the last couple of years. I've made some mistakes and am still learning. Ambien helps.
dj On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 4:50 AM, deripsni<[email protected]> wrote: > > You're not a freak, but you do have some inherent fear, maybe on a > personal level. Fear of not being liked, fear of death, for example. > This is why I have stated that I think dreams are reflective of ones > true emotional state. I remember a lot of dreams, and can only think > of a handful of bad dreams that I've had in my life. Why? I think its > because I enjoy a secure and comfortable spirit. Am I saying you > don't? No, maybe you only remember your bad dreams. But what you say > seems to indicate some insecurity, although I cannot specify what it > is. Just my opinion, may be way off, and hopefully I am. > > On Aug 15, 3:17 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >> I very seldom remember my dreams and when I do they are most often >> disturbing. Terrifying sometimes. I have been stabbed so many times >> I've developed an irrational fear of knives being handled by anyone >> besides me. Am I some sort of freak? >> >> dj >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Slip Disc<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > D, >> > Appreciate your view, freedom from conscious thought. Dreams are >> > definitely as much an outlet as they are an opportunity for >> > introspection. I'm not sure that I would agree that they represent >> > ones true inner feelings, not in the context of what I was presenting, >> > the quantum travel aspect which shifts the "self" into another gear, >> > another consciousness, possibly not your own consciousness. >> > In the dream realm we could be anywhere or anyone at one time or >> > another. I think dreams are more complex than that which you >> > present. Considering the many types of dreams, it seems that simple >> > diagnosis of dreams is not possible or at least not easily >> > interpreted. For one, a premonitory dream would have nothing >> > personally to do with the self if the dream is portraying an impending >> > situation. If you had a dream of someone going into a club and >> > setting off a bomb and then saw the news of it a few days later, what >> > would the dream have to do with "your" inner feelings or state of well >> > being? >> > The crux of this thread really is about the parallel aspect of >> > dreaming, the quantum travel in the dream state that is not possible >> > in the conscious realm. >> > You are dreaming, you are at a party in Japan, you are enjoying >> > yourself, suddenly you wake up in your bed. Question, were you really >> > there?, is the party still going on even though you left and in a >> > quantum leap returned to the conscious world in which you physically >> > live. However, again, was the person at the party in Japan really you >> > or did you somehow "tune in" to someones consciousness at a party in >> > Japan? >> > In our conscious world we can't just say excuse me I think I'm going >> > to go to a party in Japan, see you later. In the dream realm that is >> > exactly what we may be able to do, travel. >> >> > On Aug 14, 5:50 am, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> To me, dreams represent the freedom of conscious thought, and are a >> >> sub-concious reflection of ones true inner feelings, brought to life >> >> unimpeded by physcial road blocks. I think they display the real state >> >> of the union of a persons emotional wellbeing. >> >> >> Although some of my dreams are similar to idle contemplation in that >> >> they don't have a conceived structure, I consider the "mood" of the >> >> dream to be more relevant than the details, which can as be bizarre >> >> and unworldly as the imagination allows. How one feels in the dream >> >> seems to be reflective of how a person generally feels. Is the dream >> >> happy, fearful, violent, etc.? >> >> >> As far as a dream being a connection with another planet or parallel >> >> universe is concerned, I have never felt this to be the case myself. >> >> OBE's are another story, but one isn't sleeping/dreaming during an >> >> OBE. In a dream, one can be wherever their imagination takes them, but >> >> I rather doubt that it is actually travel. I have felt disorientation, >> >> or being in two places at once, but again, not in a dream. Interesting >> >> idea though. >> >> >> On Aug 13, 7:21 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > The discussion on eternity, time and space sparked a memory of an old >> >> > thread I started back in September 08, and considering the amount of >> >> > new members I thought it would be relevant and revealing. It seems >> >> > the archives in ME have been swiped clean because I couldn't find any >> >> > old threads. So......... >> >> >> > Are we experiencing quantum travel in our dreams? >> >> >> > Sometimes I wonder, when I dream and it feels as if I am physically in >> >> > another place, if that dream is a manifestation of my subconscious >> >> > mind >> >> > or if I am experiencing a consciousness in a parallel universe or >> >> > within another dimension of our own universe, within our time or >> >> > another time. Recently astronomers found a smaller version of our own >> >> > solar system 5,000 light-years across the galaxy, this is the first >> >> > planetary system that really >> >> > looks like our own, with outer giant planets and room for smaller >> >> > inner planets. Of course it is beyond our reach physically but what >> >> > about our capacity to subconsciously travel through the hypothetical >> >> > mesh of energy in quantum physics. These energy formulations present >> >> > travel that exponentially exceeds the speed of light. Therefore, I >> >> > would hypothesize that the subconscious mind in the dream state >> >> > possibly enters the zero-point field, traveling to another part of our >> >> > universe, solar system or the next solar system. Possibly my dream >> >> > could be taking place on the other side of the planet or the other >> >> > side of the universe. Perhaps Krypton even {;-] >> >> >> > I find some degree of correlation with dreams and the concept of time >> >> > travel which according to wikipedia is defined as the concept of >> >> > moving between different moments in time in a manner analogous to >> >> > moving between different points in space, either sending objects (or >> >> > in some cases just information) backwards in time to a moment >> >> > beforethe present, or sending objects forward from the present to the >> >> > future >> >> > without the need to experience the intervening period (at least not at >> >> > the normal rate). Some interpretations of time travel also suggest >> >> > that an attempt to travel backwards in time might take one to a >> >> > parallel universe to diverge from the traveler's original history >> >> > after the moment the traveler arrived in the past. Although time >> >> > travel has been a common plot device in fiction since the 19th >> >> > century, and one-way travel into the future is arguably possible given >> >> > the phenomenon of time dilation based on velocity in the theory of >> >> > special relativity (exemplified by the twin paradox) as well as >> >> > gravitational time dilation in the theory of general relativity, it is >> >> > currently unknown whether the laws of physics would allow backwards >> >> > time travel. Any technological device, whether fictional or >> >> > hypothetical, that is used to achieve two-way time travel is known as >> >> > a time machine. >> >> >> > I do enjoy the Time Machine movies past and present and see some >> >> > validity in the concept. If you look in your yard you may see nothing >> >> > at the time but possibly there is something there but you can't see it >> >> > because it exists in that exact place but only in a different time. >> >> > Something like the twin towers if you were standing at ground zero and >> >> > could turn back time you would see them because they are there in that >> >> > time. >> >> >> > Lynn McTaggart's book The Field connects our physical world with that >> >> > of the cosmos. This correlation is considered to be the basis for >> >> > spiritual healing and other earth space phenomena. This basically >> >> > presents a direct connection of the scientific world with that of the >> >> > spiritual world. Considering that dreams are of significant relevance >> >> > in biblical scripture, I would not dismiss these theoretical >> >> > explorations as whimsical notions. Old and New Testament scripture >> >> > clearly indicate the importance of dream acknowledgment. >> >> >> > Walter Brueggermann, professor emeritus of Old Testament at Columbia >> >> > Theological Seminary in Decatur, Georgia writes....... The ancient >> >> > world and the biblical tradition knew about dreams. The >> >> > ancients understood that the unbidden communication in the night opens >> >> > sleepers to a world different from the one they manage during the day. >> >> > The ancients dared to imagine, moreover, that this unbidden >> >> > communication is one venue in which the holy purposes of God, >> >> > perplexing and unreasonable as they might be, come to us. They knew >> >> > too that this communication is not obvious. It requires >> >> > interpretation. >> >> >> > Freud, of course, did not link dreams to the holy, which he regarded >> >> > as an illusion. He worked to put dream interpretation on a scientific >> >> > footing, transposing the religious dimension of dreams into a >> >> > psychological reality. Dreams were taken to be disclosure of the >> >> > denied part of the self particularly the self’s repressed desires. >> >> > Though he transposed dreams from religious to psychological realities, >> >> > Freud nonetheless utilized a rabbinic-midrashic interpretive method, >> >> > which involved a patient probing of multi-layered meanings and the >> >> > inscrutable, enigmatic dimensions of life. Dreams, like ancient texts, >> >> > require imaginative interpretation in order for us to receive what >> >> > they disclose. >> >> >> > Personally I stand ambivalent in this area of the scientific or >> >> > spiritual approach to dreaming. I know that I have experienced >> >> > powerful dreams, some of which seem as though I am physically >> >> > somewhere else, while others appear as I'm without physical form but >> >> > merely a detached consciousness beyond the actual location of my >> >> > physical being. What remains as the most difficult task is not only >> >> > the interpretation of dreams but what to do with the knowledge >> >> > attained in the dream state. >> >> >> > Perhaps theories of time travel are validated within the realm of >> >> > dream states through cosmic dimensions. >> >> >> > There was a movie released in 1984 titled Dreamscape in which people >> >> > endowed with psychic abilities were used, in a dream lab study, to >> >> > enter into the dream of another person thereby helping to dissolve >> >> > reoccurring nightmares. Upon entering the dream the psychic could >> >> > physically move about with the patient in the patients dream with the >> >> ... >> >> read more »- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
