I hope your situation improves Don. Let me know if I can help. I know some hefty Italian guys! (just kidding) ;-]
On Aug 16, 12:29 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > Nah, you're pretty much dead-on Deri. After a life of relatively > carefree existence I've been hit up with a substantial amount of > unwanted responsibility in the last couple of years. I've made some > mistakes and am still learning. Ambien helps. > > dj > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 4:50 AM, deripsni<[email protected]> wrote: > > > You're not a freak, but you do have some inherent fear, maybe on a > > personal level. Fear of not being liked, fear of death, for example. > > This is why I have stated that I think dreams are reflective of ones > > true emotional state. I remember a lot of dreams, and can only think > > of a handful of bad dreams that I've had in my life. Why? I think its > > because I enjoy a secure and comfortable spirit. Am I saying you > > don't? No, maybe you only remember your bad dreams. But what you say > > seems to indicate some insecurity, although I cannot specify what it > > is. Just my opinion, may be way off, and hopefully I am. > > > On Aug 15, 3:17 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I very seldom remember my dreams and when I do they are most often > >> disturbing. Terrifying sometimes. I have been stabbed so many times > >> I've developed an irrational fear of knives being handled by anyone > >> besides me. Am I some sort of freak? > > >> dj > > >> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Slip Disc<[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > D, > >> > Appreciate your view, freedom from conscious thought. Dreams are > >> > definitely as much an outlet as they are an opportunity for > >> > introspection. I'm not sure that I would agree that they represent > >> > ones true inner feelings, not in the context of what I was presenting, > >> > the quantum travel aspect which shifts the "self" into another gear, > >> > another consciousness, possibly not your own consciousness. > >> > In the dream realm we could be anywhere or anyone at one time or > >> > another. I think dreams are more complex than that which you > >> > present. Considering the many types of dreams, it seems that simple > >> > diagnosis of dreams is not possible or at least not easily > >> > interpreted. For one, a premonitory dream would have nothing > >> > personally to do with the self if the dream is portraying an impending > >> > situation. If you had a dream of someone going into a club and > >> > setting off a bomb and then saw the news of it a few days later, what > >> > would the dream have to do with "your" inner feelings or state of well > >> > being? > >> > The crux of this thread really is about the parallel aspect of > >> > dreaming, the quantum travel in the dream state that is not possible > >> > in the conscious realm. > >> > You are dreaming, you are at a party in Japan, you are enjoying > >> > yourself, suddenly you wake up in your bed. Question, were you really > >> > there?, is the party still going on even though you left and in a > >> > quantum leap returned to the conscious world in which you physically > >> > live. However, again, was the person at the party in Japan really you > >> > or did you somehow "tune in" to someones consciousness at a party in > >> > Japan? > >> > In our conscious world we can't just say excuse me I think I'm going > >> > to go to a party in Japan, see you later. In the dream realm that is > >> > exactly what we may be able to do, travel. > > >> > On Aug 14, 5:50 am, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> To me, dreams represent the freedom of conscious thought, and are a > >> >> sub-concious reflection of ones true inner feelings, brought to life > >> >> unimpeded by physcial road blocks. I think they display the real state > >> >> of the union of a persons emotional wellbeing. > > >> >> Although some of my dreams are similar to idle contemplation in that > >> >> they don't have a conceived structure, I consider the "mood" of the > >> >> dream to be more relevant than the details, which can as be bizarre > >> >> and unworldly as the imagination allows. How one feels in the dream > >> >> seems to be reflective of how a person generally feels. Is the dream > >> >> happy, fearful, violent, etc.? > > >> >> As far as a dream being a connection with another planet or parallel > >> >> universe is concerned, I have never felt this to be the case myself. > >> >> OBE's are another story, but one isn't sleeping/dreaming during an > >> >> OBE. In a dream, one can be wherever their imagination takes them, but > >> >> I rather doubt that it is actually travel. I have felt disorientation, > >> >> or being in two places at once, but again, not in a dream. Interesting > >> >> idea though. > > >> >> On Aug 13, 7:21 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> > The discussion on eternity, time and space sparked a memory of an old > >> >> > thread I started back in September 08, and considering the amount of > >> >> > new members I thought it would be relevant and revealing. It seems > >> >> > the archives in ME have been swiped clean because I couldn't find any > >> >> > old threads. So......... > > >> >> > Are we experiencing quantum travel in our dreams? > > >> >> > Sometimes I wonder, when I dream and it feels as if I am physically in > >> >> > another place, if that dream is a manifestation of my subconscious > >> >> > mind > >> >> > or if I am experiencing a consciousness in a parallel universe or > >> >> > within another dimension of our own universe, within our time or > >> >> > another time. Recently astronomers found a smaller version of our own > >> >> > solar system 5,000 light-years across the galaxy, this is the first > >> >> > planetary system that really > >> >> > looks like our own, with outer giant planets and room for smaller > >> >> > inner planets. Of course it is beyond our reach physically but what > >> >> > about our capacity to subconsciously travel through the hypothetical > >> >> > mesh of energy in quantum physics. These energy formulations present > >> >> > travel that exponentially exceeds the speed of light. Therefore, I > >> >> > would hypothesize that the subconscious mind in the dream state > >> >> > possibly enters the zero-point field, traveling to another part of our > >> >> > universe, solar system or the next solar system. Possibly my dream > >> >> > could be taking place on the other side of the planet or the other > >> >> > side of the universe. Perhaps Krypton even {;-] > > >> >> > I find some degree of correlation with dreams and the concept of time > >> >> > travel which according to wikipedia is defined as the concept of > >> >> > moving between different moments in time in a manner analogous to > >> >> > moving between different points in space, either sending objects (or > >> >> > in some cases just information) backwards in time to a moment > >> >> > beforethe present, or sending objects forward from the present to the > >> >> > future > >> >> > without the need to experience the intervening period (at least not at > >> >> > the normal rate). Some interpretations of time travel also suggest > >> >> > that an attempt to travel backwards in time might take one to a > >> >> > parallel universe to diverge from the traveler's original history > >> >> > after the moment the traveler arrived in the past. Although time > >> >> > travel has been a common plot device in fiction since the 19th > >> >> > century, and one-way travel into the future is arguably possible given > >> >> > the phenomenon of time dilation based on velocity in the theory of > >> >> > special relativity (exemplified by the twin paradox) as well as > >> >> > gravitational time dilation in the theory of general relativity, it is > >> >> > currently unknown whether the laws of physics would allow backwards > >> >> > time travel. Any technological device, whether fictional or > >> >> > hypothetical, that is used to achieve two-way time travel is known as > >> >> > a time machine. > > >> >> > I do enjoy the Time Machine movies past and present and see some > >> >> > validity in the concept. If you look in your yard you may see nothing > >> >> > at the time but possibly there is something there but you can't see it > >> >> > because it exists in that exact place but only in a different time. > >> >> > Something like the twin towers if you were standing at ground zero and > >> >> > could turn back time you would see them because they are there in that > >> >> > time. > > >> >> > Lynn McTaggart's book The Field connects our physical world with that > >> >> > of the cosmos. This correlation is considered to be the basis for > >> >> > spiritual healing and other earth space phenomena. This basically > >> >> > presents a direct connection of the scientific world with that of the > >> >> > spiritual world. Considering that dreams are of significant relevance > >> >> > in biblical scripture, I would not dismiss these theoretical > >> >> > explorations as whimsical notions. Old and New Testament scripture > >> >> > clearly indicate the importance of dream acknowledgment. > > >> >> > Walter Brueggermann, professor emeritus of Old Testament at Columbia > >> >> > Theological Seminary in Decatur, Georgia writes....... The ancient > >> >> > world and the biblical tradition knew about dreams. The > >> >> > ancients understood that the unbidden communication in the night opens > >> >> > sleepers to a world different from the one they manage during the day. > >> >> > The ancients dared to imagine, moreover, that this unbidden > >> >> > communication is one venue in which the holy purposes of God, > >> >> > perplexing and unreasonable as they might be, come to us. They knew > >> >> > too that this communication is not obvious. It requires > >> >> > interpretation. > > >> >> > Freud, of course, did not link dreams to the holy, which he regarded > >> >> > as an illusion. He worked to put dream interpretation on a scientific > >> >> > footing, transposing the religious dimension of dreams into a > >> >> > psychological reality. Dreams were taken to be disclosure of the > >> >> > denied part of the self particularly the self’s repressed desires. > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
