On 11 Aug, 11:48, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
> One dimension of the perennial debate between Theists and Atheists,
> Spiritualists and Materialists, has been of the kind :
>
> There is spirit. Where is the spirit ?
>
> There is God. Where is God ?
>
> There is One, Whole, Unity. Where is One, Whole, Unity ?
>
> Now, dialectically, the discussion goes far but nowhere. So, let me
> place the issue in a familiar context that may perhaps express the
> separation and the connection between these two poles. Here it goes :
>
> My Father and I are one. >>> Unity
>
> I am the Way. >>> Connection
>
> I know not ; only my Father knows. >>> Separation
>
> These may not exactly be his quotes but they are what Christ seems to
> have expressed at some point of time or other. What they reveal, if
> indeed they do, is that all three exist, are there within us, in the
> way we are, know, think, believe, feel, and look upon upon others and
> themselves.
>
> So, why are the Materialists or Atheists saying they alone are valid,
> true, correct and, by implication and their crusade, have the sole
> right to exist or occupy the thought and knowledge space in human
> minds ?
>
> Or, is their crusade merely reactive, historically speaking, against
> the ( highly unreasonable and destructive ) religious crusades and
> millenia - long ( unreasonably subjugatory ) proselytation efforts of
> ( mono ) theists ?
>
> Why can't the theists realise that atheism is inevitable and atheists
> see the Whole, the Unity, as Universe surely is, even though it is the
> parts that are apparent to us ?
>
> What prevents the understanding, even among people who are so well
> informed, read, educated, and intellectually endowed ?
What prevents the understanding is a common platform/language in which
to discuss the issues. For example: Science has no problem with the
concept that energy is neither created nor destroyed; however, they
balk at the concept that God is neither created nor destroyed. If God
is an entity comprised of that energy, the two seemingly differing
concepts merge into a greater view that encompasses them both.
Somehow, we (as humans) need to get to that 'bigger picture' where we
can see the forests and the trees (and the leaves on the trees and the
chlorophyll in the leaves, etc.)
What bothers me is that, since Einstein's concepts of space-time have
been fairly well accepted as valid, the philosophical implications of
space-time have been completely ignored. In so doing, humanity hides
its head under the blanket and refuses to believe what we know to be
true because it 'upsets' us (either personally or in groups/
institutions). We're fooling ourselves by refusing to accept the
truth (the other way of fooling ourselves is to believe what isn't
true). When will we, as a species, face the facts as we know them?
Of course, I understand that 'Law' as we know it, would fall by the
wayside if we accept that there is no free will (a 'truth' of space-
time), but it is, nevertheless worth a rethink. We would need to
understand that, once something HAS happened, that it HAD to be that
way--however nasty WE might think it was. That doesn't give people
any more license than they already have (as the laws of physics allow
for murder, theft, and any other offense)--but we have to understand
that:
1) In a universe that exists as a space-time continuum, ALL things/
events that occur within it are necessary and they are EQUALLY
necessary. That means that, if something exists, the universe has
deigned that it is required. So all the homeless people are JUST AS
IMPORTANT and VITAL to the whole as the world leaders and CEOs. Their
existence is proof positive.
With an understanding of that, we should be willing to take onto
ourselves a moral understanding to help one another to be the best
individual that any individual can be. But our society ignores people
and doesn't REALLY attempt to foster the best out of us, nor does it
have much of a safety net to catch those who tend to stray.
2) In a universe where there is only one thing that truly exists
(the whole), harming another is, essentially, self harm and is not as
beneficial to the whole as it could be. We, as a people, need to be
FAR more empathetic towards one another and foster and aide whenever
and wherever we can. For example, we view ourselves as indivduals
when, in truth, science shows us that we are, in fact, a conglomerate
of tiny individuals (cells) of varying types all working together to
create the macroscopic illusion of a greater being. Society is the
same and, in our society, we 'individuals' are like the cells to the
society. But, unfortunately, without empathy to form the lasting
bonds between us, we fight one another as if we were all immune cells
and everyone else is a malignant cancer cell. This is because we have
no REAL understanding of ourselves nor our place in the universe.
Don't worry, on that last one...I'm working on it!! ;-)
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