However sporadic, I can understand, though I don't get the less fun when sober part. If you would take the color and ethnicity out of your view of sports, maybe we would have something. It almost seems as though you, in triumph only, would establish the ethnic predictor thread. Alas, we have reached the pinnacle of British precision!! Snap to it arch! It's about species!! Your sneakingly undercuting belly punches only serve as a balance, to even out your personal (blank). Yes indeed! But succinctly it has been said, "stop complaining about the problem and become part of the solution". Yes, the lies, deception and all that was in the past is merely a void in the future. Yes indeed, political manipulation to the nth degree of controlling the populous, but don't die in quiet but die with a scream, the braveheart to the end. Change it!
On Aug 23, 7:16 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > It's good to know you 'guys' are about (sorry Moll). England have > just won the Ashes - so normally I'd have been out in Manchester, > forcing exiled Aussies to eat crow and cry in their beer. I'm on the > wagon - so it would be no fun sober. Last time, I latched on to a > particularly unfortunate Australian for a couple of hours, only to > realise on the last train home he was a South African! I had the > misfortune at school to play against Aussie representative sides and > find it difficult not to take every available chance to exorcise the > trauma! I still have a dream about stilted devils from a time in > Sierra Leone - strangely the faces are not black but Australian - a > strange conflation of the terror, though I was definitely more scared > of the Aussie rugby players (always seemingly about 2 years more > matured than us). I actually don't drink that often, so I'm not going > through cold turkey, but I am finding the world so difficult at the > moment because I can see nothing worth arguing about - it's only fit > for ridicule. Sartre once talked about a union of egoists (if they'd > ever collected in one place you can be sure I'd have bombed it!) - but > seriously we do seem to have failed to stop the educational jackboot > stamping-out innovation. The world is much worse now than when I left > school, just as Africa is much worse since Graham Green 'danced with > the devil' (1935 ?) - and schools and universities are worse, perhaps > because we have never known what they should be for and only copied > what the rich did with them? > > On 23 Aug, 23:51, facilitator <[email protected]> wrote: > > > A simple "Common Enemy" will do. I have understood this from past > > histories of those who would "rally the troops" to a new era. > > Perhaps, if we can pick an enemy who is not part of any human > > grouping, we might ascend to a more amicable world. > > > On Aug 23, 11:28 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > It's rough when one is a scholastic non conformist, arch, it doesn't > > > go over well in academia land. Knowledge is power and mobility, of > > > course that may be simply mind over matter, does the mind overrule > > > what matters? We can suffer consequence by misunderstanding a > > > directive, we can take a warning and view it as such or see it as an > > > issued taboo, fiat. The whole of it all for me is illusory so I just > > > view every instance in life as a calling to gather knowledge without > > > some transcendental attachment or consequence. > > > The world as you say does not function on the knowledge base but > > > manipulation for an end result regardless of the methodology. Though > > > the knowledge is there, as existing only, it get's over looked because > > > it interferes with the goal, it exposes ethics and morality and that's > > > a no no. I'm often amazed how in politics, as excuses for maladies > > > seem to stem from gross ignorance, each passes the basket over to the > > > next ignorant official. If knowledge is of use it is in the knowledge > > > that the masses are ignorant and truth can be refracted to create the > > > illusion of truth, very useful tool to ply the gullible. This is when > > > laws become the obstacle for learning as they present a dictum to be > > > followed without consideration, they simply state "do this like > > > this". Of course there are those who see through the veil of bull > > > crap, establish the knowledgeable challenge and initiate "war". One's > > > truth is a lie to the other. > > > I think the problem with 101 is that it comes too little too late. We > > > nurture our young into a world of spin to the point of dizzying > > > befuddlement then tell them that they need to learn in order to not be > > > taken advantage of by the unethical, unscrupulous predations of the > > > rule. Sure we could start it out in early youth but that would, in > > > our P.C. world be construed as indoctrination. Education standards > > > have plummeted when in fact they should be fine tuned and at the > > > pinnacle of world class. Knowledge is not advantageous to the rule > > > and so they've crippled it, put blinders on the educators and > > > established the law of non-knowledge. It's all about basic function, > > > abc, 123 with a little Spin (oza). > > > > On Aug 23, 9:13 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I must admit I can't hack university study - something of an admission > > > > since I teach the stuff. I'm not good at thinking the way others want > > > > me to. However, I still broadly agree knowledge is useful and not > > > > having it generally dangerous. Much could be debated here. I'll > > > > chicken out a bit and put forward 'double aspect theory'. > > > > This claims that mental and physical systems are really both > > > > properties of a deeper reality which itself is neither mental nor > > > > physical. Its most famous advocate in the West was Baruch Spinoza > > > > (1632 - 77). Mind and matter are aspects of the same thing - 'god'. > > > > Mind and matter may be rather similar kinds of entities, one > > > > transmitting and the other receiving (Hume). All talk of mind and > > > > matter can be reduced (Russell) to 'events' which are not > > > > instrinsically either. Vam could no doubt point to a much longer > > > > 'Eastern' history of all this than I am capable of. The scientific > > > > account of the physical world is quite unlike the common sense > > > > version. > > > > > Such considerations are all very well, but we live in a world that > > > > does not respect knowledge much. This is a world of bent politicians > > > > and all kinds of ways of influencing situations other than through > > > > truth and open demonstration. Deception is everywhere, not least > > > > amongst those claiming to tell us the truth. The species that > > > > uniformly claims to want peace is always at war in history. One could > > > > say we have a 'Barbarian Temperament', yet our history is so bad we > > > > only now have the dawning glimmer that the 'Barbarians' were usually > > > > more peaceful. poetic, artistic and decent than those who delivered > > > > our history to us (Chaz was really good on this and I miss him in > > > > here). As I write, Ponting (the greatest postwar Aussie batter) is > > > > run out - I am easily distracted by trivia. Now Michael Clarke is run > > > > out with a fluke - a decision only giveable through modern > > > > technology. Test Match Special can set you free! > > > > > These cricket events are happening 'live as I write' (I do know to > > > > most they are as interesting as something better wiped off the bottom > > > > of a shoe - I imagine Gabby being so enthralled as to contemplate > > > > suicide as preferable to reading on!) - I am genuinely lifted by this > > > > obvious nonsense. My friend Vam might well lift a metaphorical glass > > > > to celebrate his friend's delight, barely concealing how much sweeter > > > > the future revenge over this motley crew of 'born abroad' "Englishmen" > > > > will be in a later Indian Summer. > > > > > My point, not argued, is that we need some kind of 101 of living, not > > > > philosophy. I would turn the technology of being able to stage events > > > > to peace, to mobilise a peace that turns what is war to the trivia of > > > > cricket, knitting - something that makes the swell of pride a residual > > > > organ of an entertainment of a long lost history we can laugh at in > > > > all seriousness. Even the human appendix is now known to have modern > > > > use ('good bacteria' hide in there when we are ill). My 101 would > > > > contain questions about how we can form polls of peace and plenty that > > > > cannot be stolen by a few idiots with guns. In this sense, I feel > > > > education is failing us as our young skip to school.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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