Indeed as a religious man I can always claim that the only absolute
truth is God, infact my religious dogman says exactly this, if you
care to Google Mool Mantar you'll know of what I speak.

However that of course does not help our Athiest freinds, what of them
I wonder?

On 24 Aug, 11:28, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ken Wilber does a nice job with the notions of relative and absolute
> truth:  http://www.kenwilber.com/blog/show/455
>
> His take is that the relative world is the one of form and
> distinction, relatively true for us because our perceptions vary, so
> our perceived relative truth is variable.  Absolute truth, according
> to Wilber and many of the Eastern traditions, cannot be described and
> must be experienced.  I think the "cannot be described bit" comes from
> the fact that we choose our words according to our perceptions and so,
> by describing an absolute truth, we make it relative to our
> perceptions.
>
> I do not think that truth can be brutal or gentle.  Those descriptions
> are our assigned value.
>
> On Aug 24, 5:15 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > What exactly are you after here BB?  When you say that you want to
> > know the Absolute truth which brach of thruth are you seeking?
>
> > If it is as I suspect from your first post here, moral thruth, then
> > the sad truth is this.
>
> > There is no absolute moral principle.  Morality IS subjective, that is
> > to say.  What I say is good you may say is bad.  What principle can we
> > then use to show which one is good and which is bad?  None, for there
> > is no absolute moral principle, unless of course you know what it is?
> > If so please share my freind?
>
> > On 23 Aug, 17:10, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 23, 4:17 am, showmethehoney <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Is evidence possible in relativism? If viewpoints are varied, what can
> > > > prove if one viewpoint is right or wrong? If something is factual,
> > > > doesn't relativism become obsolete?
>
> > > Good questions. Even if something is "factual" it can be viewed
> > > relatively.  Relativism turns right and wrong into just another
> > > opinion.- Hide quoted text -
>
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