On 24 Aug, 15:53, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote:
> 2009/8/24 Pat <[email protected]>
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> >   One of the main arguments against God is that atheists see no
> > evidence that the universe is teleological, i.e., that it is heading
> > in a particular direction with goals at the end.  They overlook the
> > FACT that we exist in a space-time continuum.  The continuum contains
> > ALL the past, present and future; that is, the ends are already
> > defined (as is all the middle).  If the ends are already defined, then
> > the universe is, most definitely teleological, and the stumbling block
> > (of no teleology) crumbles into dust before the weight of one stone
> > (Einstein).
>
> Assuming a continuum, why do you think a future there contained is anything
> other than a perfectly indeterminate, fluctuating, and malleable one?
>
> Ian

   That's easy!!  Because I would expect it to be like every other
part of the continuum.  I.e., as fixed as is the past.  Now, if you
and I can somehow figure out how to change the past (NOT just writing
an historical yet false account), then I'll be more open to a mutable
future.  I can't see ANY basis for thinking that the continuum works
differently in some parts than it does in others; it's a continuum--
the rules for it always apply.  On the opposite side of that question:
what makes you think that there would be a difference between the way
the future works and the way the past works?  I can see absolutely no
basis for it; but, of course, I can't see everything.  ;-)
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