LOL  yeah guess it could be viewed that way in a weird sort of way..  but
that take over goes way back to Regan and republican party  they even went
so far as going to Iran  and negotiated a deal where  the terrorist would
hold prisoners until after the US Election passed.  They used American
citizens being held prisoners to het Regan elected..

The problems start when irresponsible politician go after there own agenda,,
not the good of the citizen.

Could you imagine what would have happened if the weasel had the diplomatic
and political skills of Obama instead of being a school yard bully. To me
the thought would be frightening.
Allan

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 7:44 PM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> Well Allan, IF that is the entire story, then I guess we can give Bush
> et al the credit for saving  the US, no? :-)
>
> On Aug 24, 10:42 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Well the american democracy ushered in the Bush and the republican party
> > There are massive similarities..  the only thing that saved the US is the
> > recession
> > Allan
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 7:17 PM, ornamentalmind <
> [email protected]>wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > ...and of course, Germany was a democracy that ushered the Nazi party
> > > into parliament.
> >
> > > On Aug 24, 6:34 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Heh heh no what was that about moral subjectivity again!
> >
> > > > On 24 Aug, 14:02, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Well expressed point Ian.  In Bahrain, women have voted more
> > > > > conservatively than men since the new constitution.  It might even
> be
> > > > > that women will vote for such draconian 'male laws'.  I can't get
> the
> > > > > name right, but there's a Taliban in Nigeria (something like Nagwag
> > > > > Bozo - though he was a real idiot I knew).  The name means
> 'destroyers
> > > > > of education' or somesuch.  I might have more time for democracy if
> I
> > > > > didn't have to spend so much time wondering which of my wives
> should
> > > > > enjoy cleaning my toenails tonight with a toothbrush and how many
> of
> > > > > the others  I should deign allow the dignity of pleasuring me in
> order
> > > > > they may increase their small chance of entering heaven, where I
> shall
> > > > > reject them in any case for fresh virgin.  I used to vote myself,
> but
> > > > > now that uneducated women can it is easier just to send the harem
> off,
> > > > > certain in the knowledge they will do the job for me in order to
> keep
> > > > > the only life of bliss they know.  A democracy of fools is perhaps
> no
> > > > > democracy at all.  Even our taxes are low, now that you British
> send
> > > > > soldiers over to suppress our hotheads, though your chaps are not
> as
> > > > > cooperative as the Americans when it comes to the profitable
> > > > > distribution of our poppy crop.  Perhaps you could depress the
> already
> > > > > squalid living standards of their wives and children back in the UK
> > > > > further, in order to increase demand for poppy derivatives?
> >
> > > > > On 24 Aug, 12:55, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > ask the magic conch shell!
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MINiYurEsOs
> >
> > > > > > On Aug 24, 7:44 am, "[email protected]" <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > Okay Ian, Now you are scarring me.  Twice I find myself
> agreeing
> > > with
> > > > > > > you in one day!
> >
> > > > > > > Whilst not strictly a pacifist, I do find myself thinking,
> 'war,
> > > what
> > > > > > > is it good for?', okay yes I know my history and I myself have
> > > > > > > proclimed that I too use violence when I have to.
> >
> > > > > > > Yet another way must be possible.
> >
> > > > > > > I find myself in the uneviable position also of haveing to
> declare
> > > my
> > > > > > > dislike for your avargae squaddy, belive me I know a lot of
> them
> > > and
> > > > > > > have never met a decent one amongst them, and of course this
> then
> > > gets
> > > > > > > seen as 'I do not support our troops'.  Well in reality I do
> not
> > > > > > > support war, and I think our(UK) goverment are guilty of taking
> > > normal
> > > > > > > teenagers into the armed forces, letting them serve their time
> and
> > > > > > > turning them back out into civy street without the nesicary
> > > > > > > unprograming needed to let them live a life outside of the
> armed
> > > > > > > forces.  I blame this soley on the goverment.
> >
> > > > > > > Ahh what to do what to do?
> >
> > > > > > > On 24 Aug, 12:36, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > 2009/8/24 Molly Brogan <[email protected]>
> >
> > > > > > > > > Are you blaming democracy for the passing of this law?
> >
> > > > > > > > No, I'm:
> >
> > > > > > > > 1) Highlighting that this supposedly moral mission of
> bringing
> > > democracy to
> > > > > > > > the Afghan people was worthless, given that the elected
> > > government is
> > > > > > > > pursuing a similarly repugnant agenda to the Taliban's
> previous
> > > one.
> >
> > > > > > > > 2) Pondering the notion of absolute truths.
> >
> > > > > > > > Ian- Hide quoted text -
> >
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> >
> > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
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> > (
> >  )
> > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
> >
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