Since there is my text at the bottom I would like to respond. I never said anything about whether or not the man who was convicted of the bombing should be freed early due to illness. I think that was a legitimate call, to free a man with terminal illness, especially after the many years he served, but not limited to that. I do not see anything wrong with that. I did mention to Archy that I felt there was a presumed innocence on his part, and also with the crowd that “greeted” him to use his term.
I think it was more than just a routine “greeting.” If I were to say the Vietnam war veterans returning home in the 60’s and 70’s were “greeted” by the anti-war protesters, well I don’t think that was a routine greeting. There was an attached component, just as there was at the airport for this man convicted of the bombing. There was an overwhelming presumption of innocence attached there, where as the opposite for the Vietnam soldiers, which was misplaced guilt placed on them. It is the “misplaced” that I am concerned with. It has been established by some that “we will never know” if he was actually guilty or not, and yet these “feelings” persist. The crowd at the airport, based on the sound bytes I heard were convinced of his innocence, and they seemed to celebrate his return, not as a dying man , hardly something to be joyous about, not as many of them even knew him, but as some perceived vindication for his innocence, like they had won something. They didn’t win anything, the man served his life, and he is dying. He was convicted in court. I have not heard anything about the case itself and how it was corrupt, but the fact that there was some convincing evidence to someone presented, I don’t see how “innocent” can be completely decided on. I remember seeing Arabs truly “celebrate” after 9/11, and I can certainly compare this to this case. I do not deny that there might have been a zealous attempt to convict "somebody" I would prefer to focus on the evidence that was presented. The anger of those who do not like the decision to release, well they have a different view, he was guilty, and he deserves to die in prison, I don't agree with the die in prison part, but I can understand them not wanting any special treatment for him either. On Aug 24, 3:14 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > You know personaly this has made me shout at the TV more than I > normaly do. > > Let me see if this make logical sense, because to mind mind there > seems to be something that has been forgotten in all of the news and > upheaveal sorrounding this. > > A man that was found guilty of a crime and has serverd a good few > years imprisonment for it has been realsed on compassionant grounds, > he is not a residant of the UK, he is dying of cancer and he has been > sent home to die. > > We had a similar thing here the other week with Ronnie Biggs the great > train robber, there has not been the same level of ill will about > that, not by a longshot. > > So the conclusion I have reached is one of the severity of the crime, > and the level of or lack of commpasion that should or has been shown. > > To my mind what is missing in the news coverage is this word > compassion. I can only find therefore that all of those who feel > outraged belive that no compassion should be show. That in my mid IS > outragouse, why should any dieing mans family feel punished for the > crimes of the father? > > If it was my dad in prison, I would love to have him home to die, > easpecily if he was imprisoned in a foriegn country. > > The Scotish legal system has shown high ethical standards here, and it > upsets me, and angers me that we as a speices seem to lack a sense of > compassion, and turn instead in anger upon the very people who show > such compassion. Man it leaves a sour taste in my mouth, I feel > ashamed, truely I do. > > On 23 Aug, 00:43, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 22, 2:26 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > We release a probably not guilty patsy. > > > You used the word "probably" so it sounds like you reached some level > > of conclusion, yet later you say that there is no way we will ever > > know? Did you see every shred of evidence presented in court? I > > didn't, you might have. All I know is that somebody was responsible > > and that it appears to me that all parties reacted somewhat poorly, > > including the celebration at the airport. The "patsy" part? > > Possible, but again you seem to have reached a conclusion. > > > > No doubt some long done > > > commercial 'deal' was involved. > > > No doubt? I have some doubt. I can't say either way > > > > Embarrassment over our pathetic legal > > > > systems is avoided. > > > Pathetic in comparison or just the whole lot of them? Why are they > > pathetic? > > > >This was surely enough to inflict on us as a > > > public. The authorities cannot resist piling more on. All sorts of > > > ministers and legal agents used to crawling out from under rocks and > > > trading drugs for arms amongst our enemies now tell us their honour is > > > insulted as they scramble to bask in the sordid sun of moral high > > > ground. The real message is that we will never know the truth about > > > Lockerbie and that we are unpatriotic even to think them capable of > > > dreadful lies, despite history constantly revealing this is what they > > > do. I wonder if we could list the typical lies they tell? > > > Sure, go ahead and list them if it makes you feel better or for any > > other reason, I won't mind. > > Maybe we can set up some sort of "court" in here in regards to the > > accusations of the lies and we could conduct it in your way so that it > > would not be "pathetic?"- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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