Hahahhahh aoohh sheeet you are a one Pat!
On 26 Aug, 16:17, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 26 Aug, 16:13, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Again I don't know about that one Gruff.
>
> > We are all guilty of declaring with the utmost certianty that which we
> > 'know' to be true. I know that a creator God exists, am I arrogant
> > for saying so? Do you find 'having the courage of your convictions'
> > arrogant, or is it rather the way that things come across that you
> > find fault with?
>
> > I think based wholely on subjective evidance and experiance of
> > interaction with people that none of us likes to be told we are wrong.
>
> Especially if we 'know' better. And that, of course, can be
> applied to both gruff's view from my perspective or my view from
> gruff's. ;-)
>
>
>
> > On 26 Aug, 15:33, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > "... On Aug 26, 6:52 am, Pat <[email protected]>
> > > wrote: ..."
>
> > > > Rather, it's easily derivable from a Minkowski space-time.
> > > > Einstein knew it and Minkowski knew it. Arrogance is, quite often,
> > > > the opinion of the ignorant. I asked you to back up your assertion,
> > > > can you? And even more relevant to YOUR arrogance, how have you come
> > > > to know that which is unknowable and/or how do you know what is
> > > > knowable by me?
>
> > > I dispute your assertion that Minkowski and Einstein "knew" anything
> > > and I doubt whether either of them would be so arrogant as to say they
> > > "knew" something to be. I believe they would use more relative terms
> > > such as "based on such and such it appear that ....". I don't want
> > > this to break off into a discussion of knowledge and knowing but the
> > > arrogance implicit in such statements as "knowing" anything at all
> > > about such ethereal subjects is, as you say, an opinion of the
> > > ignorant supported by nothing so much as the hubris and bravado of the
> > > speaker (or writer in this case.)
>
> > > As regards your statement that my arrogance has come to let me know
> > > that which is unknowable, the easiest thing in the world is to know
> > > what one does not know and requires not arrogance but rather humility,
> > > a quality which seems to be missing in many of the statements here on
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