BB first of all Bush really did not win He did lose the popular election even with out a recount in Florida, He was essential appointed by the republican supreme court.. The United States never has been a democracy in its entire existence. it is a republic.
At the time of its conception the electoral college was a good Idea. but today with vastly improved communications it is a way to deny the voter a say in how they are governed. Allan On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:07 AM, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote: > > Bush tells an ugly story about democracy. It is a "winner take all" > system, which is not good. How he won, I will never understand. But > "the other guy" might have been just as bad. But that is hard to > imagine. But anyway, every system has faults. I am not sure > democracy is the best, but it is better than most. I like the checks > and balances in our system, but even those break down on occasion. I > like the Parlimentary system too, although the house of commons is the > strangest room I have ever heard. Isn't that the one where they yell > out something constanly interrupting? And pound? Very strange. > > There must be a better way, but I don't know what it is. > > On Aug 24, 10:42 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well the american democracy ushered in the Bush and the republican party > > There are massive similarities.. the only thing that saved the US is the > > recession > > Allan > > > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 7:17 PM, ornamentalmind < > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and of course, Germany was a democracy that ushered the Nazi party > > > into parliament. > > > > > On Aug 24, 6:34 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > Heh heh no what was that about moral subjectivity again! > > > > > > On 24 Aug, 14:02, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Well expressed point Ian. In Bahrain, women have voted more > > > > > conservatively than men since the new constitution. It might even > be > > > > > that women will vote for such draconian 'male laws'. I can't get > the > > > > > name right, but there's a Taliban in Nigeria (something like Nagwag > > > > > Bozo - though he was a real idiot I knew). The name means > 'destroyers > > > > > of education' or somesuch. I might have more time for democracy if > I > > > > > didn't have to spend so much time wondering which of my wives > should > > > > > enjoy cleaning my toenails tonight with a toothbrush and how many > of > > > > > the others I should deign allow the dignity of pleasuring me in > order > > > > > they may increase their small chance of entering heaven, where I > shall > > > > > reject them in any case for fresh virgin. I used to vote myself, > but > > > > > now that uneducated women can it is easier just to send the harem > off, > > > > > certain in the knowledge they will do the job for me in order to > keep > > > > > the only life of bliss they know. A democracy of fools is perhaps > no > > > > > democracy at all. Even our taxes are low, now that you British > send > > > > > soldiers over to suppress our hotheads, though your chaps are not > as > > > > > cooperative as the Americans when it comes to the profitable > > > > > distribution of our poppy crop. Perhaps you could depress the > already > > > > > squalid living standards of their wives and children back in the UK > > > > > further, in order to increase demand for poppy derivatives? > > > > > > > On 24 Aug, 12:55, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > ask the magic conch shell! > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MINiYurEsOs > > > > > > > > On Aug 24, 7:44 am, "[email protected]" < > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Okay Ian, Now you are scarring me. Twice I find myself > agreeing > > > with > > > > > > > you in one day! > > > > > > > > > Whilst not strictly a pacifist, I do find myself thinking, > 'war, > > > what > > > > > > > is it good for?', okay yes I know my history and I myself have > > > > > > > proclimed that I too use violence when I have to. > > > > > > > > > Yet another way must be possible. > > > > > > > > > I find myself in the uneviable position also of haveing to > declare > > > my > > > > > > > dislike for your avargae squaddy, belive me I know a lot of > them > > > and > > > > > > > have never met a decent one amongst them, and of course this > then > > > gets > > > > > > > seen as 'I do not support our troops'. Well in reality I do > not > > > > > > > support war, and I think our(UK) goverment are guilty of taking > > > normal > > > > > > > teenagers into the armed forces, letting them serve their time > and > > > > > > > turning them back out into civy street without the nesicary > > > > > > > unprograming needed to let them live a life outside of the > armed > > > > > > > forces. I blame this soley on the goverment. > > > > > > > > > Ahh what to do what to do? > > > > > > > > > On 24 Aug, 12:36, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > 2009/8/24 Molly Brogan <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > Are you blaming democracy for the passing of this law? > > > > > > > > > > No, I'm: > > > > > > > > > > 1) Highlighting that this supposedly moral mission of > bringing > > > democracy to > > > > > > > > the Afghan people was worthless, given that the elected > > > government is > > > > > > > > pursuing a similarly repugnant agenda to the Taliban's > previous > > > one. > > > > > > > > > > 2) Pondering the notion of absolute truths. > > > > > > > > > > Ian- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- ( ) I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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