Bush tells an ugly story about democracy. It is a "winner take all"
system, which is not good. How he won, I will never understand. But
"the other guy"  might have been just as bad. But that is hard to
imagine.  But anyway, every system has faults.  I am not sure
democracy is the best, but it is better than most.  I like the checks
and balances in our system, but even those break down on occasion.  I
like the Parlimentary system too, although the house of commons is the
strangest room I have ever heard. Isn't that the one where they yell
out something constanly interrupting?  And pound? Very strange.

 There must be a better way, but I don't know what it is.

On Aug 24, 10:42 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well the american democracy ushered in the Bush and the republican party
> There are massive similarities..  the only thing that saved the US is the
> recession
> Allan
>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 7:17 PM, ornamentalmind 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
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> > ...and of course, Germany was a democracy that ushered the Nazi party
> > into parliament.
>
> > On Aug 24, 6:34 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > Heh heh no what was that about moral subjectivity again!
>
> > > On 24 Aug, 14:02, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Well expressed point Ian.  In Bahrain, women have voted more
> > > > conservatively than men since the new constitution.  It might even be
> > > > that women will vote for such draconian 'male laws'.  I can't get the
> > > > name right, but there's a Taliban in Nigeria (something like Nagwag
> > > > Bozo - though he was a real idiot I knew).  The name means 'destroyers
> > > > of education' or somesuch.  I might have more time for democracy if I
> > > > didn't have to spend so much time wondering which of my wives should
> > > > enjoy cleaning my toenails tonight with a toothbrush and how many of
> > > > the others  I should deign allow the dignity of pleasuring me in order
> > > > they may increase their small chance of entering heaven, where I shall
> > > > reject them in any case for fresh virgin.  I used to vote myself, but
> > > > now that uneducated women can it is easier just to send the harem off,
> > > > certain in the knowledge they will do the job for me in order to keep
> > > > the only life of bliss they know.  A democracy of fools is perhaps no
> > > > democracy at all.  Even our taxes are low, now that you British send
> > > > soldiers over to suppress our hotheads, though your chaps are not as
> > > > cooperative as the Americans when it comes to the profitable
> > > > distribution of our poppy crop.  Perhaps you could depress the already
> > > > squalid living standards of their wives and children back in the UK
> > > > further, in order to increase demand for poppy derivatives?
>
> > > > On 24 Aug, 12:55, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > ask the magic conch shell!
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MINiYurEsOs
>
> > > > > On Aug 24, 7:44 am, "[email protected]" <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > Okay Ian, Now you are scarring me.  Twice I find myself agreeing
> > with
> > > > > > you in one day!
>
> > > > > > Whilst not strictly a pacifist, I do find myself thinking, 'war,
> > what
> > > > > > is it good for?', okay yes I know my history and I myself have
> > > > > > proclimed that I too use violence when I have to.
>
> > > > > > Yet another way must be possible.
>
> > > > > > I find myself in the uneviable position also of haveing to declare
> > my
> > > > > > dislike for your avargae squaddy, belive me I know a lot of them
> > and
> > > > > > have never met a decent one amongst them, and of course this then
> > gets
> > > > > > seen as 'I do not support our troops'.  Well in reality I do not
> > > > > > support war, and I think our(UK) goverment are guilty of taking
> > normal
> > > > > > teenagers into the armed forces, letting them serve their time and
> > > > > > turning them back out into civy street without the nesicary
> > > > > > unprograming needed to let them live a life outside of the armed
> > > > > > forces.  I blame this soley on the goverment.
>
> > > > > > Ahh what to do what to do?
>
> > > > > > On 24 Aug, 12:36, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > 2009/8/24 Molly Brogan <[email protected]>
>
> > > > > > > > Are you blaming democracy for the passing of this law?
>
> > > > > > > No, I'm:
>
> > > > > > > 1) Highlighting that this supposedly moral mission of bringing
> > democracy to
> > > > > > > the Afghan people was worthless, given that the elected
> > government is
> > > > > > > pursuing a similarly repugnant agenda to the Taliban's previous
> > one.
>
> > > > > > > 2) Pondering the notion of absolute truths.
>
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