Guess again, my friend, guess again! > The new world order is being written in here right before your > upturned eyes!
Its not new. We've been making progress for millenium! And we are still making progress. The colors explode like a fireworks show to “oohs and > ahhs” of the crowd but the sparks soon fizzle out and never actually > touch the ground, as all fireworks do. They dazzle with light and > color and sizzle with wisdom in their intense insight but then sputter > out and fall as ashes to the earth, which where we humans actually > stand and watch. The speeches burst in the sky, and they just keep > coming, like a show that never ends. They are a spectacle to behold, > no doubt, but only in their vision, until they burn out long before > touching the earth. > Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! Wow! Your the one with the incandsent and vacuous language. But yours doesn't seem to lead anywhere? Why? We are all trying to understand. Why don't you, instead of asking us to give you back your own ideas, why don't you just lay yours out. Do you know the relationship between Minds Eye and money? Can you further any understanding? Do you know of some action we all should be taking? If so, make it plain. Tell us. Or are you going to keep calling for others to .... finally.... write down what you think... so you can congratulate them on finally understanding. > There is the “conspiracy” speech, the “cynical” speech, the > “blame” speech, the “we are all one” speech, the “we are all equal” > speech, the “we need to evolve beyond this” speech, the “we help the > needy” speech, the “selfish is bad” speech, the “we will defeat you” > speech (some contradiction there) , the “I know best” speech, (which > is EVERY single speech, let‘s just be honest!) the , “I have the > answer” speech, the “I have more experience” speech, the “philosophy > is not the answer“ speech, yet the philosophy keeps coming in these > speeches…the “we don‘t need money“ speech, How about the "I've heard it all before speech!" > > …...but every one of these speeches have one crucial fault in common. > None of them describe the “mechanics” of the new world order that > their speech is supposedly about! NOT ONE. Not one of these glorious > firework speeches goes over every nut and bolt of the MECHANICS of the > new and improved “engine” of the world. Not one of them turns the > crankshaft of the engine of the world which we actually live in or > explains “why” it would turn. First, there is nothing wrong with speeches that are not about the mechanics of things. It is amazing how easy the mechanics turn out to be! Look at a simple problem like feeding the starving in Africa. There is no economic problem in doing that. In fact it is easy. The real problems are the security issues. And why do we have that?! Maya my friend. There is a real need for enlightenment and that is not an easy problem. How is it attacked? Many are trying. With sometimes only simple charity. It is not easy. But the origin of the problem is ultimately a confusion and the discussions you are belittling are an attempt to raise consciousness. Do you realize what a lack of consciousness could cost! In dollar terms? Has cost? Imaging going from Richard Nixon to Ronald Regan without having the 60s intervene. Good chance we'd be all incinerated. All we needed was two people whose consciousness was so low that their quest for power engaged their personal survival instincts and th there experience of being - one in DC and the other and Moscow and .... poof bang.... What was WW1 fought over? Do you understand the symbolism behind "Blackwater" and do you lack the consciousness to see the harbringer clear as it was in Mein Kampf? Working out the details is important but standing around yelling "We have to do something now!" without considering carefully what to do is wrong. You must look first to first principles and derive your way out. The financial planning comes at the very end and its impact is highly overrated. If we were conscious in the first world at the highest level it would happen. The fact that we are conscious at all has kept the dogs at bay.... at least somewhat... many have died but the real holacaust has been prevented.. so far. Not one of them is even ATTACHED to > ANYTHING here on earth, where the day to day transactions occur, where > the pistons go up and down, and the valve opens, because it has a > reason to open and that reason makes sense. Ah your appeal to "making sense" and your reduction of that to mechanism! Guess again my friend, Guess again. You do not understand the degree to which we do not know why a piston goes up and down. You are not even aware of the questions. None of your beautiful > speeches address the mechanics of the world , here on the ground. > When you start describing that I will respect you, but until then, you > are nothing more than a firework in the sky that fizzles to nothing > down here. Wrong! Look at the declaration of independence. Where do you think the idea of liberty came from. Do you really think that all men are created equal? If so on what basis. Some are smart, some not. Some are pretty, some not. So why have any equality at all? Do you think you can base laws on money and mechanics... where you.... excuse the term .... "live"......?!*%$ > > Human nature is completely ignored. Outrageous claim. It is trans-cultural and I believe even trans- special to some extent. Mamalian perhaps. Love drives the world much more than money ever will. You are a fool if you believe otherwise. We don’t even know what it > is! But that does not matter, for in the speeches, the answer is so > often “good for all” like a paper lever attached to the crankshaft of > the human engine, it would tear off and flap in the wind before it > moved ANYTHING. Everyone would be somehow “equalized“, and everyone > would magically just turn the crankshaft and open the valve “because > it is good for all?” No, but each is a person. Each is of value inherently because they exist! And each is capable of good. And there again we see it, your fetish for mass. Paper does not have the mass that real steel has. It is true. But try writing on an engine with a wrench! Well, in twenty years, when nothing has > changed, Find me 20 years when nothing has changed in history. You, sir, are a fool! and the engine still turns for “real” reasons and not due to > your paper levers, the speeches will still come, and you will not have > addressed anything, so you will not have changed anything, but your > speeches will still rain down but evaporate before they ever move a > thing here on the ground. Logic and reason are “outdated” to the new > world order speech writers. “Reality” is “old school” and quaint. > Any engineer knows how to make things work and the first step is not just to start bending metal. Sometimes it is years if ideation before the action to take becomes clear. And there is a lot going on as we speak! As a singe instance just consider the economic implications of trust. No, even more limited. Just consider it on the value of a dollar. Just consider the relationship between trust and money. Or, if you'd like, consider the paradigm of value. Or consider the motivation for a vow of poverty. > Just “how”, in every aspect, is each meal delivered to every person, > three times a day, throughout the world? Ok, so you want an answer? Your question is so rhetorical it is breathtaking. But the implication that thinking about things might not lead to some change in how we spend our time.... Do you know what should be done? Inform us! Tell me what needs to be done. My problem is that I don't think that that is the issue. We just don't want to do it. And why we don't is the real problem. Its not a mechanical one. Its not an economic one. There is plenty of wasted time we could use. If you would just look at your own post and apply it to itself it might help. Questions like these always > result in dead silence. Oh do they! Have you heard my silence?! Where? In my exclamation marks? Silence? Now you are complaining about silence? To put it simply: We need to become more aware of the meaning of our lives so that the source of good becomes more apparent culturally and we focus on relieving each other's suffering and celebrating the life we have together. But there is a problem. Becoming aware is not easy. Still progress is being made and we are more liberal now that we were in the time when you could legitimately crucify someone light him on fire and have a party in your garden without completely deligitimizing your authority. That is until the next butterfly speech comes > down from above, and it always comes down, without fail, the answer > flaps away, like butterflies do, trying to blow away any questions > like THAT, but the answer never comes. Actually, my friend, it is not butterfly;s its dolphins. Dolphins and whales. Don't forget them! Don't forget greenpeace. The problem is, they are not manly enough for you. Not like the boot and the crop? Too feminine a symbol? But where does wisdom lie then? Have you ever looked at a butterfly? Have you ever really looked? Their color is magnificent. They are truly beautiful. Just like flowers and if you think all of that tending that mostly women do of them is wrong, or stupid, or not mechanical you are just plain wrong. There is a lot going on... the environmental movement, hell, there are all kinds of people trying their heart out to improve things... This is a newsgroup. People write here. It is a place for writing and reading. What do you expect to find here? Recruitment for some revolutionary movement? Perhaps you can find some understanding. A new way to look at the world. These are the questions of > the mechanics of the world. Mechanics is your idol and you do not even know why or what you mean by it. How about "concrete"? Do you like that word? Something the new world order folks > despise. They only care about the warm and fuzzy. Reality on the > ground is not warm and fuzzy. Ah, but it is! It is both warm AND fuzzy! If you can‘t provide the “real“ answers, > and it shows in every response that does not address these basic > realities, here, down on the ground, on the blue rock that rotates > around the slowly dying sun, alone in space, well just what kind of a > world are you proposing? You must lift your eyes from the blue rock. You are enslaved by your idea of it. It is just a blue rock anyway, right? Our conscious is insignificant? Life is insignificant? What matters is that we "be real". We focus on "important" things like "money" and "mechanics"?! Guess again. > > The “real” world, down on the ground, way below your little “show” > up there, actually has to MOVE things. And the only ones who can do it > is humans. Until you start providing the ENTIRE “process” of MOVING > things, designing things, and delivering everything in your perfect > new world, and explain WHY anyone would want to do it, well you are > all just a pop in the sky, admired by some, but quickly fade to ashes > for everyone on the ground. It is moving. It has been moving for milenium. Your life is moving around you. Why not just sit down, have a nice cup of coffee... no... wait.... you should leave the coffee alone.... just try to relax.... there is enough mindless economic activity already. Why not just try to appreciate something simple. Sit for a while. Sit in silence. For a long while. Days at least. Have you ever heard of vispasina? Maybe its right for you. Here is the website: http://www.dhamma.org/ You might be surprised what you experience. Perhaps what you need is something very simple. Just sit. Do nothing. Abandon the frantic urge for action for a while and visit your life as it truly is. 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