Ahhh I see. Do you not think though with the developed world being a Capitlist Consumer one, then we are in fact already being forced?
I have no desire to work to earn money so that I can live, life though has dictated that I should, our system as it stands already forces me to live a life that is not wholey compatible to the way my brain seems to be 'wired' I have no choice in this matter. Yes I agree people are differant the world over, you'll find me saying that a lot. We shall never I fear all think with one mind. Profit comes in many forms and as you relalise that we are all different can you consider how a man may profit by the good deeds he does? That feeling you get, that nice warm glow that happens when you help another, can that too not be considered profit? As to me trying to get you to think like me, well that wouild I expect be a marvel, we do have opposing ideas it seems, yet I still think that we can bash things around and end up agreeing on lots of things. On 1 Sep, 20:39, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sep 1, 4:13 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > So BB, > > > What's this weeks (seems like it's becomeing a weekly event) tirade > > supposed to address, what are your motives for it, what did you wish > > to discuss or are you merely venting? > > It is there in my reply to Justin, if you can see it. We, you and me, > will never see the same things it appears. Oh well. Our brains are > wired completely differently. > > I am trying to say that removing "profit" (as just one example) from > "the way things work" today, well I see that as removing incentive for > people to do much of what they do, and that in the end, that simply > won't work, only because it does not appear to match how many people > are "wired" for their incentives and their motivations for "a better > life" (right or wrong that may be, I am just saying that is what they > appear to "do") > > People want things, we all dress differently (for some reason, but the > fact is we "do" for our funny little reasons) and we "choose" > different lives. Forcing people to choose one way won't work. People > resist that, they like what they like, and that is that. If you > "convince" them, fine. You would have to convince me for example to > think like you, and to want what you want, and I just don't see that > happening, let's just be honest here. That is all I am trying to do, > be honest. > > > > > > > On 1 Sep, 03:54, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The new world order is being written in here right before your > > > upturned eyes! The colors explode like a fireworks show to “oohs and > > > ahhs” of the crowd but the sparks soon fizzle out and never actually > > > touch the ground, as all fireworks do. They dazzle with light and > > > color and sizzle with wisdom in their intense insight but then sputter > > > out and fall as ashes to the earth, which where we humans actually > > > stand and watch. The speeches burst in the sky, and they just keep > > > coming, like a show that never ends. They are a spectacle to behold, > > > no doubt, but only in their vision, until they burn out long before > > > touching the earth. > > > > There is the “conspiracy” speech, the “cynical” speech, the > > > “blame” speech, the “we are all one” speech, the “we are all equal” > > > speech, the “we need to evolve beyond this” speech, the “we help the > > > needy” speech, the “selfish is bad” speech, the “we will defeat you” > > > speech (some contradiction there) , the “I know best” speech, (which > > > is EVERY single speech, let‘s just be honest!) the , “I have the > > > answer” speech, the “I have more experience” speech, the “philosophy > > > is not the answer“ speech, yet the philosophy keeps coming in these > > > speeches…the “we don‘t need money“ speech, > > > > …...but every one of these speeches have one crucial fault in common. > > > None of them describe the “mechanics” of the new world order that > > > their speech is supposedly about! NOT ONE. Not one of these glorious > > > firework speeches goes over every nut and bolt of the MECHANICS of the > > > new and improved “engine” of the world. Not one of them turns the > > > crankshaft of the engine of the world which we actually live in or > > > explains “why” it would turn. Not one of them is even ATTACHED to > > > ANYTHING here on earth, where the day to day transactions occur, where > > > the pistons go up and down, and the valve opens, because it has a > > > reason to open and that reason makes sense. None of your beautiful > > > speeches address the mechanics of the world , here on the ground. > > > When you start describing that I will respect you, but until then, you > > > are nothing more than a firework in the sky that fizzles to nothing > > > down here. > > > > Human nature is completely ignored. We don’t even know what it > > > is! But that does not matter, for in the speeches, the answer is so > > > often “good for all” like a paper lever attached to the crankshaft of > > > the human engine, it would tear off and flap in the wind before it > > > moved ANYTHING. Everyone would be somehow “equalized“, and everyone > > > would magically just turn the crankshaft and open the valve “because > > > it is good for all?” Well, in twenty years, when nothing has > > > changed, and the engine still turns for “real” reasons and not due to > > > your paper levers, the speeches will still come, and you will not have > > > addressed anything, so you will not have changed anything, but your > > > speeches will still rain down but evaporate before they ever move a > > > thing here on the ground. Logic and reason are “outdated” to the new > > > world order speech writers. “Reality” is “old school” and quaint. > > > > Just “how”, in every aspect, is each meal delivered to every person, > > > three times a day, throughout the world? Questions like these always > > > result in dead silence. That is until the next butterfly speech comes > > > down from above, and it always comes down, without fail, the answer > > > flaps away, like butterflies do, trying to blow away any questions > > > like THAT, but the answer never comes. These are the questions of > > > the mechanics of the world. Something the new world order folks > > > despise. They only care about the warm and fuzzy. Reality on the > > > ground is not warm and fuzzy. If you can‘t provide the “real“ answers, > > > and it shows in every response that does not address these basic > > > realities, here, down on the ground, on the blue rock that rotates > > > around the slowly dying sun, alone in space, well just what kind of a > > > world are you proposing? > > > > The “real” world, down on the ground, way below your little “show” > > > up there, actually has to MOVE things. And the only ones who can do it > > > is humans. Until you start providing the ENTIRE “process” of MOVING > > > things, designing things, and delivering everything in your perfect > > > new world, and explain WHY anyone would want to do it, well you are > > > all just a pop in the sky, admired by some, but quickly fade to ashes > > > for everyone on the ground.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
